Three numbers which are co-primes of each other such that the product of the first $2$ is $551$ and that of the last $2$ is 1073. Find the $3$ numbers

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If we take a,b, and c as the three numbers then, I know the answer is got by using the fact that b will be the common factor of $551$ and $1073$. But what I don't understand is why is b taken as the gcd of $551$ and $1073$ as it can easily be just any of the common factors of those two numbers.







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  • @dxiv Yup. But why should that number be taken as the gcd at all?? Where is it told it will be the gcd as it could be just any common factor of 551 and 1073.
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  • @how did you come to that conclusion just by looking at the question? that there are just two common factors
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    Denote $A=ab$, $B=bc$, then: if assume that $GCD(A,B) = b g;$ ($g> 1)$, then $A=alphacdot b g, B=beta cdot b g$, where $GCD(alpha,beta)=1$; hence $a=alpha g$, $b=beta g$. So $GCD(a,b)=g>1$ ($a$ and $b$ aren't co-prime).
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    Jul 19 at 5:04







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    @GRANZER does that make a and b also to be co-primes The title of your question says "co-primes of each other". This would normally read as "mutually co-prime", meaning that each pair of numbers is co-prime i.e. $gcd(a,b)$ $=gcd(b,c)$ $=gcd(c,a)$ $=1$.
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    Jul 19 at 5:42






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    @Oleg567 Did you mean $c= beta.g$ and $GCD(a,c)=g>1$?
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If we take a,b, and c as the three numbers then, I know the answer is got by using the fact that b will be the common factor of $551$ and $1073$. But what I don't understand is why is b taken as the gcd of $551$ and $1073$ as it can easily be just any of the common factors of those two numbers.







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  • @dxiv Yup. But why should that number be taken as the gcd at all?? Where is it told it will be the gcd as it could be just any common factor of 551 and 1073.
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 4:57










  • @how did you come to that conclusion just by looking at the question? that there are just two common factors
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:00






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    Denote $A=ab$, $B=bc$, then: if assume that $GCD(A,B) = b g;$ ($g> 1)$, then $A=alphacdot b g, B=beta cdot b g$, where $GCD(alpha,beta)=1$; hence $a=alpha g$, $b=beta g$. So $GCD(a,b)=g>1$ ($a$ and $b$ aren't co-prime).
    – Oleg567
    Jul 19 at 5:04







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    @GRANZER does that make a and b also to be co-primes The title of your question says "co-primes of each other". This would normally read as "mutually co-prime", meaning that each pair of numbers is co-prime i.e. $gcd(a,b)$ $=gcd(b,c)$ $=gcd(c,a)$ $=1$.
    – dxiv
    Jul 19 at 5:42






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    @Oleg567 Did you mean $c= beta.g$ and $GCD(a,c)=g>1$?
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If we take a,b, and c as the three numbers then, I know the answer is got by using the fact that b will be the common factor of $551$ and $1073$. But what I don't understand is why is b taken as the gcd of $551$ and $1073$ as it can easily be just any of the common factors of those two numbers.







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If we take a,b, and c as the three numbers then, I know the answer is got by using the fact that b will be the common factor of $551$ and $1073$. But what I don't understand is why is b taken as the gcd of $551$ and $1073$ as it can easily be just any of the common factors of those two numbers.









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  • @dxiv Yup. But why should that number be taken as the gcd at all?? Where is it told it will be the gcd as it could be just any common factor of 551 and 1073.
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 4:57










  • @how did you come to that conclusion just by looking at the question? that there are just two common factors
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:00






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    Denote $A=ab$, $B=bc$, then: if assume that $GCD(A,B) = b g;$ ($g> 1)$, then $A=alphacdot b g, B=beta cdot b g$, where $GCD(alpha,beta)=1$; hence $a=alpha g$, $b=beta g$. So $GCD(a,b)=g>1$ ($a$ and $b$ aren't co-prime).
    – Oleg567
    Jul 19 at 5:04







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    @GRANZER does that make a and b also to be co-primes The title of your question says "co-primes of each other". This would normally read as "mutually co-prime", meaning that each pair of numbers is co-prime i.e. $gcd(a,b)$ $=gcd(b,c)$ $=gcd(c,a)$ $=1$.
    – dxiv
    Jul 19 at 5:42






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    @Oleg567 Did you mean $c= beta.g$ and $GCD(a,c)=g>1$?
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 7:18

















  • @dxiv Yup. But why should that number be taken as the gcd at all?? Where is it told it will be the gcd as it could be just any common factor of 551 and 1073.
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 4:57










  • @how did you come to that conclusion just by looking at the question? that there are just two common factors
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:00






  • 1




    Denote $A=ab$, $B=bc$, then: if assume that $GCD(A,B) = b g;$ ($g> 1)$, then $A=alphacdot b g, B=beta cdot b g$, where $GCD(alpha,beta)=1$; hence $a=alpha g$, $b=beta g$. So $GCD(a,b)=g>1$ ($a$ and $b$ aren't co-prime).
    – Oleg567
    Jul 19 at 5:04







  • 1




    @GRANZER does that make a and b also to be co-primes The title of your question says "co-primes of each other". This would normally read as "mutually co-prime", meaning that each pair of numbers is co-prime i.e. $gcd(a,b)$ $=gcd(b,c)$ $=gcd(c,a)$ $=1$.
    – dxiv
    Jul 19 at 5:42






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    @Oleg567 Did you mean $c= beta.g$ and $GCD(a,c)=g>1$?
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 7:18
















@dxiv Yup. But why should that number be taken as the gcd at all?? Where is it told it will be the gcd as it could be just any common factor of 551 and 1073.
– GRANZER
Jul 19 at 4:57




@dxiv Yup. But why should that number be taken as the gcd at all?? Where is it told it will be the gcd as it could be just any common factor of 551 and 1073.
– GRANZER
Jul 19 at 4:57












@how did you come to that conclusion just by looking at the question? that there are just two common factors
– GRANZER
Jul 19 at 5:00




@how did you come to that conclusion just by looking at the question? that there are just two common factors
– GRANZER
Jul 19 at 5:00




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Denote $A=ab$, $B=bc$, then: if assume that $GCD(A,B) = b g;$ ($g> 1)$, then $A=alphacdot b g, B=beta cdot b g$, where $GCD(alpha,beta)=1$; hence $a=alpha g$, $b=beta g$. So $GCD(a,b)=g>1$ ($a$ and $b$ aren't co-prime).
– Oleg567
Jul 19 at 5:04





Denote $A=ab$, $B=bc$, then: if assume that $GCD(A,B) = b g;$ ($g> 1)$, then $A=alphacdot b g, B=beta cdot b g$, where $GCD(alpha,beta)=1$; hence $a=alpha g$, $b=beta g$. So $GCD(a,b)=g>1$ ($a$ and $b$ aren't co-prime).
– Oleg567
Jul 19 at 5:04





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@GRANZER does that make a and b also to be co-primes The title of your question says "co-primes of each other". This would normally read as "mutually co-prime", meaning that each pair of numbers is co-prime i.e. $gcd(a,b)$ $=gcd(b,c)$ $=gcd(c,a)$ $=1$.
– dxiv
Jul 19 at 5:42




@GRANZER does that make a and b also to be co-primes The title of your question says "co-primes of each other". This would normally read as "mutually co-prime", meaning that each pair of numbers is co-prime i.e. $gcd(a,b)$ $=gcd(b,c)$ $=gcd(c,a)$ $=1$.
– dxiv
Jul 19 at 5:42




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@Oleg567 Did you mean $c= beta.g$ and $GCD(a,c)=g>1$?
– GRANZER
Jul 19 at 7:18





@Oleg567 Did you mean $c= beta.g$ and $GCD(a,c)=g>1$?
– GRANZER
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Assuming $a,b,c$ are all positive.



$$ab=551$$
$$bc=1073$$



$b$ clearly is a common divisor.



Suppose it is not the greatest common divisor, then $a$ and $c$ would share some common factors that are bigger than $1$ which contradicts to the fact that they are coprime.






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  • I am sorry but I think I am missing some crucial point of knowledge that is making me not grasp the answer. If b is not the gcd, how would that make a and c have factors bigger than 1? Also, a,b, and c are together suppose to be coprime so that doesn't have to mean a and c should also be co-primes
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:14










  • I was just failing with this one fact that Every common divisor of two integers divides their greatest common divisor.
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:37






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    Let $s$ be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ and $d$ be the largest common divisor of $a$ and $b$. By Bezout's identity there exists $x,y in mathbbZ$ such that $d=xa+yb$, since $s$ divides $a$ and $b$, it divides $xa+yb$ and it divides $d$.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Jul 19 at 5:53






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    If $b$ is not the gcd then the gcd must have some factors that don't come from $b$. Where do they come from if they don't come from the $b $? They can't come from $a$ or $c $. What's left? They can't come from anywhere.
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If $a,b,c $ are the numbers then $ab $ and $bc $ are the products. Those have $b $ as a common factor. But $a$ and $c $ are relatively prime and have no factors in common. So $ab$ and $bc$ can't have any factors in common that aren't a factor of $b $.



So $b$ is the greatest common factor of $ab $ and $bc $. So we can find $b $. Just divide $ab$ and $bc $ by $b$ to get $a $ and $c $.






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    Assuming $a,b,c$ are all positive.



    $$ab=551$$
    $$bc=1073$$



    $b$ clearly is a common divisor.



    Suppose it is not the greatest common divisor, then $a$ and $c$ would share some common factors that are bigger than $1$ which contradicts to the fact that they are coprime.






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    • I am sorry but I think I am missing some crucial point of knowledge that is making me not grasp the answer. If b is not the gcd, how would that make a and c have factors bigger than 1? Also, a,b, and c are together suppose to be coprime so that doesn't have to mean a and c should also be co-primes
      – GRANZER
      Jul 19 at 5:14










    • I was just failing with this one fact that Every common divisor of two integers divides their greatest common divisor.
      – GRANZER
      Jul 19 at 5:37






    • 1




      Let $s$ be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ and $d$ be the largest common divisor of $a$ and $b$. By Bezout's identity there exists $x,y in mathbbZ$ such that $d=xa+yb$, since $s$ divides $a$ and $b$, it divides $xa+yb$ and it divides $d$.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Jul 19 at 5:53






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      If $b$ is not the gcd then the gcd must have some factors that don't come from $b$. Where do they come from if they don't come from the $b $? They can't come from $a$ or $c $. What's left? They can't come from anywhere.
      – fleablood
      Jul 19 at 6:06














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    Assuming $a,b,c$ are all positive.



    $$ab=551$$
    $$bc=1073$$



    $b$ clearly is a common divisor.



    Suppose it is not the greatest common divisor, then $a$ and $c$ would share some common factors that are bigger than $1$ which contradicts to the fact that they are coprime.






    share|cite|improve this answer





















    • I am sorry but I think I am missing some crucial point of knowledge that is making me not grasp the answer. If b is not the gcd, how would that make a and c have factors bigger than 1? Also, a,b, and c are together suppose to be coprime so that doesn't have to mean a and c should also be co-primes
      – GRANZER
      Jul 19 at 5:14










    • I was just failing with this one fact that Every common divisor of two integers divides their greatest common divisor.
      – GRANZER
      Jul 19 at 5:37






    • 1




      Let $s$ be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ and $d$ be the largest common divisor of $a$ and $b$. By Bezout's identity there exists $x,y in mathbbZ$ such that $d=xa+yb$, since $s$ divides $a$ and $b$, it divides $xa+yb$ and it divides $d$.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Jul 19 at 5:53






    • 1




      If $b$ is not the gcd then the gcd must have some factors that don't come from $b$. Where do they come from if they don't come from the $b $? They can't come from $a$ or $c $. What's left? They can't come from anywhere.
      – fleablood
      Jul 19 at 6:06












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    Assuming $a,b,c$ are all positive.



    $$ab=551$$
    $$bc=1073$$



    $b$ clearly is a common divisor.



    Suppose it is not the greatest common divisor, then $a$ and $c$ would share some common factors that are bigger than $1$ which contradicts to the fact that they are coprime.






    share|cite|improve this answer













    Assuming $a,b,c$ are all positive.



    $$ab=551$$
    $$bc=1073$$



    $b$ clearly is a common divisor.



    Suppose it is not the greatest common divisor, then $a$ and $c$ would share some common factors that are bigger than $1$ which contradicts to the fact that they are coprime.







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    • I am sorry but I think I am missing some crucial point of knowledge that is making me not grasp the answer. If b is not the gcd, how would that make a and c have factors bigger than 1? Also, a,b, and c are together suppose to be coprime so that doesn't have to mean a and c should also be co-primes
      – GRANZER
      Jul 19 at 5:14










    • I was just failing with this one fact that Every common divisor of two integers divides their greatest common divisor.
      – GRANZER
      Jul 19 at 5:37






    • 1




      Let $s$ be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ and $d$ be the largest common divisor of $a$ and $b$. By Bezout's identity there exists $x,y in mathbbZ$ such that $d=xa+yb$, since $s$ divides $a$ and $b$, it divides $xa+yb$ and it divides $d$.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Jul 19 at 5:53






    • 1




      If $b$ is not the gcd then the gcd must have some factors that don't come from $b$. Where do they come from if they don't come from the $b $? They can't come from $a$ or $c $. What's left? They can't come from anywhere.
      – fleablood
      Jul 19 at 6:06
















    • I am sorry but I think I am missing some crucial point of knowledge that is making me not grasp the answer. If b is not the gcd, how would that make a and c have factors bigger than 1? Also, a,b, and c are together suppose to be coprime so that doesn't have to mean a and c should also be co-primes
      – GRANZER
      Jul 19 at 5:14










    • I was just failing with this one fact that Every common divisor of two integers divides their greatest common divisor.
      – GRANZER
      Jul 19 at 5:37






    • 1




      Let $s$ be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ and $d$ be the largest common divisor of $a$ and $b$. By Bezout's identity there exists $x,y in mathbbZ$ such that $d=xa+yb$, since $s$ divides $a$ and $b$, it divides $xa+yb$ and it divides $d$.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Jul 19 at 5:53






    • 1




      If $b$ is not the gcd then the gcd must have some factors that don't come from $b$. Where do they come from if they don't come from the $b $? They can't come from $a$ or $c $. What's left? They can't come from anywhere.
      – fleablood
      Jul 19 at 6:06















    I am sorry but I think I am missing some crucial point of knowledge that is making me not grasp the answer. If b is not the gcd, how would that make a and c have factors bigger than 1? Also, a,b, and c are together suppose to be coprime so that doesn't have to mean a and c should also be co-primes
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:14




    I am sorry but I think I am missing some crucial point of knowledge that is making me not grasp the answer. If b is not the gcd, how would that make a and c have factors bigger than 1? Also, a,b, and c are together suppose to be coprime so that doesn't have to mean a and c should also be co-primes
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:14












    I was just failing with this one fact that Every common divisor of two integers divides their greatest common divisor.
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:37




    I was just failing with this one fact that Every common divisor of two integers divides their greatest common divisor.
    – GRANZER
    Jul 19 at 5:37




    1




    1




    Let $s$ be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ and $d$ be the largest common divisor of $a$ and $b$. By Bezout's identity there exists $x,y in mathbbZ$ such that $d=xa+yb$, since $s$ divides $a$ and $b$, it divides $xa+yb$ and it divides $d$.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Jul 19 at 5:53




    Let $s$ be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ and $d$ be the largest common divisor of $a$ and $b$. By Bezout's identity there exists $x,y in mathbbZ$ such that $d=xa+yb$, since $s$ divides $a$ and $b$, it divides $xa+yb$ and it divides $d$.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Jul 19 at 5:53




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    If $b$ is not the gcd then the gcd must have some factors that don't come from $b$. Where do they come from if they don't come from the $b $? They can't come from $a$ or $c $. What's left? They can't come from anywhere.
    – fleablood
    Jul 19 at 6:06




    If $b$ is not the gcd then the gcd must have some factors that don't come from $b$. Where do they come from if they don't come from the $b $? They can't come from $a$ or $c $. What's left? They can't come from anywhere.
    – fleablood
    Jul 19 at 6:06










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    If $a,b,c $ are the numbers then $ab $ and $bc $ are the products. Those have $b $ as a common factor. But $a$ and $c $ are relatively prime and have no factors in common. So $ab$ and $bc$ can't have any factors in common that aren't a factor of $b $.



    So $b$ is the greatest common factor of $ab $ and $bc $. So we can find $b $. Just divide $ab$ and $bc $ by $b$ to get $a $ and $c $.






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      If $a,b,c $ are the numbers then $ab $ and $bc $ are the products. Those have $b $ as a common factor. But $a$ and $c $ are relatively prime and have no factors in common. So $ab$ and $bc$ can't have any factors in common that aren't a factor of $b $.



      So $b$ is the greatest common factor of $ab $ and $bc $. So we can find $b $. Just divide $ab$ and $bc $ by $b$ to get $a $ and $c $.






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        If $a,b,c $ are the numbers then $ab $ and $bc $ are the products. Those have $b $ as a common factor. But $a$ and $c $ are relatively prime and have no factors in common. So $ab$ and $bc$ can't have any factors in common that aren't a factor of $b $.



        So $b$ is the greatest common factor of $ab $ and $bc $. So we can find $b $. Just divide $ab$ and $bc $ by $b$ to get $a $ and $c $.






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        If $a,b,c $ are the numbers then $ab $ and $bc $ are the products. Those have $b $ as a common factor. But $a$ and $c $ are relatively prime and have no factors in common. So $ab$ and $bc$ can't have any factors in common that aren't a factor of $b $.



        So $b$ is the greatest common factor of $ab $ and $bc $. So we can find $b $. Just divide $ab$ and $bc $ by $b$ to get $a $ and $c $.







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