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I've got a couple of these sort of questions wrong, and its pretty demoralising. Is it the method I'm using, or is it just arithmetic/silly errors? Here's one:
Use trigonometric identities before using a substitution (or reversing the chain rule) to integrate the following.
part c) $int sinleft(xright)cosleft(xright)e^cos2x$
Sub $u=cos(x)$
$int sinleft(xright)ue^cosleft(2xright)dx=int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx:$
$=-1int ue^2u^2-1du:$
Then integration by parts:
$fracu2e^2u-1-int :frac12e^2u^2-1=fracu2e^2u-1-frac14e^2u^2-1$
$=fraccosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1-frac14e^2cos^2x-1$
$-1cdot fraccosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1-frac14e^2cos^2x-1=frac-cosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1+frac14e^2cos^2x-1$
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I've got a couple of these sort of questions wrong, and its pretty demoralising. Is it the method I'm using, or is it just arithmetic/silly errors? Here's one:
Use trigonometric identities before using a substitution (or reversing the chain rule) to integrate the following.
part c) $int sinleft(xright)cosleft(xright)e^cos2x$
Sub $u=cos(x)$
$int sinleft(xright)ue^cosleft(2xright)dx=int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx:$
$=-1int ue^2u^2-1du:$
Then integration by parts:
$fracu2e^2u-1-int :frac12e^2u^2-1=fracu2e^2u-1-frac14e^2u^2-1$
$=fraccosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1-frac14e^2cos^2x-1$
$-1cdot fraccosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1-frac14e^2cos^2x-1=frac-cosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1+frac14e^2cos^2x-1$
integration trigonometry proof-verification
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The simpler way is $sin x cos x = sin 2x / 2$ (literally before using a substitution...).
– metamorphy
Jul 28 at 23:11
I can't believe I didn't think of that. I just tried it and got the right answer that way (thanks!). I wonder what was wrong with my more long winded approach, though.
– Cheks Nweze
Jul 28 at 23:20
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Where you write $int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx = -1int ue^2u-1du$ Have you accidentally dropped $u^2$ in the exponent to $u$?
– Matt
Jul 28 at 23:26
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The question states "use trigonometric identities before using a substitution" and the first thing you did was use a substitution!
– steven gregory
Jul 28 at 23:35
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Your integration by parts is indeed wrong, as promised :). Write out $f$ and $g$ in $int f'(u) g(u) du$, you'll see the problem.
– Maxim
Jul 29 at 9:59
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I've got a couple of these sort of questions wrong, and its pretty demoralising. Is it the method I'm using, or is it just arithmetic/silly errors? Here's one:
Use trigonometric identities before using a substitution (or reversing the chain rule) to integrate the following.
part c) $int sinleft(xright)cosleft(xright)e^cos2x$
Sub $u=cos(x)$
$int sinleft(xright)ue^cosleft(2xright)dx=int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx:$
$=-1int ue^2u^2-1du:$
Then integration by parts:
$fracu2e^2u-1-int :frac12e^2u^2-1=fracu2e^2u-1-frac14e^2u^2-1$
$=fraccosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1-frac14e^2cos^2x-1$
$-1cdot fraccosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1-frac14e^2cos^2x-1=frac-cosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1+frac14e^2cos^2x-1$
integration trigonometry proof-verification
I've got a couple of these sort of questions wrong, and its pretty demoralising. Is it the method I'm using, or is it just arithmetic/silly errors? Here's one:
Use trigonometric identities before using a substitution (or reversing the chain rule) to integrate the following.
part c) $int sinleft(xright)cosleft(xright)e^cos2x$
Sub $u=cos(x)$
$int sinleft(xright)ue^cosleft(2xright)dx=int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx:$
$=-1int ue^2u^2-1du:$
Then integration by parts:
$fracu2e^2u-1-int :frac12e^2u^2-1=fracu2e^2u-1-frac14e^2u^2-1$
$=fraccosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1-frac14e^2cos^2x-1$
$-1cdot fraccosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1-frac14e^2cos^2x-1=frac-cosleft(xright)2e^2cos^2x-1+frac14e^2cos^2x-1$
integration trigonometry proof-verification
edited Jul 28 at 23:29
asked Jul 28 at 23:08
Cheks Nweze
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The simpler way is $sin x cos x = sin 2x / 2$ (literally before using a substitution...).
– metamorphy
Jul 28 at 23:11
I can't believe I didn't think of that. I just tried it and got the right answer that way (thanks!). I wonder what was wrong with my more long winded approach, though.
– Cheks Nweze
Jul 28 at 23:20
1
Where you write $int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx = -1int ue^2u-1du$ Have you accidentally dropped $u^2$ in the exponent to $u$?
– Matt
Jul 28 at 23:26
1
The question states "use trigonometric identities before using a substitution" and the first thing you did was use a substitution!
– steven gregory
Jul 28 at 23:35
1
Your integration by parts is indeed wrong, as promised :). Write out $f$ and $g$ in $int f'(u) g(u) du$, you'll see the problem.
– Maxim
Jul 29 at 9:59
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The simpler way is $sin x cos x = sin 2x / 2$ (literally before using a substitution...).
– metamorphy
Jul 28 at 23:11
I can't believe I didn't think of that. I just tried it and got the right answer that way (thanks!). I wonder what was wrong with my more long winded approach, though.
– Cheks Nweze
Jul 28 at 23:20
1
Where you write $int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx = -1int ue^2u-1du$ Have you accidentally dropped $u^2$ in the exponent to $u$?
– Matt
Jul 28 at 23:26
1
The question states "use trigonometric identities before using a substitution" and the first thing you did was use a substitution!
– steven gregory
Jul 28 at 23:35
1
Your integration by parts is indeed wrong, as promised :). Write out $f$ and $g$ in $int f'(u) g(u) du$, you'll see the problem.
– Maxim
Jul 29 at 9:59
4
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The simpler way is $sin x cos x = sin 2x / 2$ (literally before using a substitution...).
– metamorphy
Jul 28 at 23:11
The simpler way is $sin x cos x = sin 2x / 2$ (literally before using a substitution...).
– metamorphy
Jul 28 at 23:11
I can't believe I didn't think of that. I just tried it and got the right answer that way (thanks!). I wonder what was wrong with my more long winded approach, though.
– Cheks Nweze
Jul 28 at 23:20
I can't believe I didn't think of that. I just tried it and got the right answer that way (thanks!). I wonder what was wrong with my more long winded approach, though.
– Cheks Nweze
Jul 28 at 23:20
1
1
Where you write $int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx = -1int ue^2u-1du$ Have you accidentally dropped $u^2$ in the exponent to $u$?
– Matt
Jul 28 at 23:26
Where you write $int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx = -1int ue^2u-1du$ Have you accidentally dropped $u^2$ in the exponent to $u$?
– Matt
Jul 28 at 23:26
1
1
The question states "use trigonometric identities before using a substitution" and the first thing you did was use a substitution!
– steven gregory
Jul 28 at 23:35
The question states "use trigonometric identities before using a substitution" and the first thing you did was use a substitution!
– steven gregory
Jul 28 at 23:35
1
1
Your integration by parts is indeed wrong, as promised :). Write out $f$ and $g$ in $int f'(u) g(u) du$, you'll see the problem.
– Maxim
Jul 29 at 9:59
Your integration by parts is indeed wrong, as promised :). Write out $f$ and $g$ in $int f'(u) g(u) du$, you'll see the problem.
– Maxim
Jul 29 at 9:59
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The simpler way is $sin x cos x = sin 2x / 2$ (literally before using a substitution...).
– metamorphy
Jul 28 at 23:11
I can't believe I didn't think of that. I just tried it and got the right answer that way (thanks!). I wonder what was wrong with my more long winded approach, though.
– Cheks Nweze
Jul 28 at 23:20
1
Where you write $int sinleft(xright)ue^2u^2-1dx = -1int ue^2u-1du$ Have you accidentally dropped $u^2$ in the exponent to $u$?
– Matt
Jul 28 at 23:26
1
The question states "use trigonometric identities before using a substitution" and the first thing you did was use a substitution!
– steven gregory
Jul 28 at 23:35
1
Your integration by parts is indeed wrong, as promised :). Write out $f$ and $g$ in $int f'(u) g(u) du$, you'll see the problem.
– Maxim
Jul 29 at 9:59