What is the least value of $tan^2 theta + cot^2 theta + sin^2 theta + cos^2 theta + sec^2 theta+ textrmcosec^2 theta$? [duplicate]

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    Might help to simplify the expression (using $sin^2theta +cos^2 theta =1$ and so on).
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  • To address the question of $theta$ being 45 degrees: the symmetry of replacing $theta$ by $90-theta$ in your expression implies that 45 degrees is a critical point. But if you follow down this direction you still need to find out whether the critical point is in fact the global minimum. So while 45 degrees does give you the correct answer, you will not know that for sure unless you do more work.
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  • To address the question of $theta$ being 45 degrees: the symmetry of replacing $theta$ by $90-theta$ in your expression implies that 45 degrees is a critical point. But if you follow down this direction you still need to find out whether the critical point is in fact the global minimum. So while 45 degrees does give you the correct answer, you will not know that for sure unless you do more work.
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Will putting $theta=45^circ$ give right answer?







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    Might help to simplify the expression (using $sin^2theta +cos^2 theta =1$ and so on).
    – lulu
    Jul 19 at 13:33










  • To address the question of $theta$ being 45 degrees: the symmetry of replacing $theta$ by $90-theta$ in your expression implies that 45 degrees is a critical point. But if you follow down this direction you still need to find out whether the critical point is in fact the global minimum. So while 45 degrees does give you the correct answer, you will not know that for sure unless you do more work.
    – Willie Wong
    Jul 19 at 13:59












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    Might help to simplify the expression (using $sin^2theta +cos^2 theta =1$ and so on).
    – lulu
    Jul 19 at 13:33










  • To address the question of $theta$ being 45 degrees: the symmetry of replacing $theta$ by $90-theta$ in your expression implies that 45 degrees is a critical point. But if you follow down this direction you still need to find out whether the critical point is in fact the global minimum. So while 45 degrees does give you the correct answer, you will not know that for sure unless you do more work.
    – Willie Wong
    Jul 19 at 13:59







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Might help to simplify the expression (using $sin^2theta +cos^2 theta =1$ and so on).
– lulu
Jul 19 at 13:33




Might help to simplify the expression (using $sin^2theta +cos^2 theta =1$ and so on).
– lulu
Jul 19 at 13:33












To address the question of $theta$ being 45 degrees: the symmetry of replacing $theta$ by $90-theta$ in your expression implies that 45 degrees is a critical point. But if you follow down this direction you still need to find out whether the critical point is in fact the global minimum. So while 45 degrees does give you the correct answer, you will not know that for sure unless you do more work.
– Willie Wong
Jul 19 at 13:59




To address the question of $theta$ being 45 degrees: the symmetry of replacing $theta$ by $90-theta$ in your expression implies that 45 degrees is a critical point. But if you follow down this direction you still need to find out whether the critical point is in fact the global minimum. So while 45 degrees does give you the correct answer, you will not know that for sure unless you do more work.
– Willie Wong
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Let $s=sin theta$ and $c=cos theta$, then



beginalign
E &= tan^2 theta+cot^2 theta+sin^2 theta+
cos^2 theta+sec^2 theta+csc^2 theta \
&= fracs^2c^2+fracc^2s^2+1+frac1c^2+frac1s^2 \
&= fracs^4+c^4+s^2c^2+s^2+c^2s^2c^2 \
&= frac(s^2+c^2)^2-s^2c^2+1s^2c^2 \
&= frac2-s^2c^2s^2c^2 \
&= frac2sin^2 theta cos^2 theta-1 \
&= frac8sin^2 2theta-1 \
& ge 7
endalign






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    As per Dani's conjecture, $theta=fracpi4$ minimises $E$.
    – J.G.
    Jul 19 at 13:56










  • @J.G. its kind of a flunk.
    – prog_SAHIL
    Jul 19 at 14:02










  • @prog_SAHIL I assume that means it's not surprising?
    – J.G.
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$$tan^2 theta + cot^2 theta + sin^2 theta + cos^2 theta + sec^2 theta+ textrmcosec^2 theta=3+2(tan^2theta+cot^2theta)$$



Now $tan^2theta+cot^2theta=(cottheta-tantheta)^2+2ge?$



the equality occurs if $cottheta-tantheta=0ifftan^2theta=1iffcos2theta=0iff2theta=(2m+1)dfracpi2$ where $m$ is any integer






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One can also answer using the "guess" that the value is attained at $theta= pi/4$.



Guessing $theta$



The expression you care about is



  • periodic with period $pi/2$; and

  • symmetric when you replace $theta$ by $pi/2 - theta$.

So you just need to look at the range $theta in (0,pi/2)$; the endpoints are ruled out since your function is infinite there. The symmetry implies that $theta = pi/4$ is a critical point.



$pi/4$ is the only critical point



Observe that $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$. Observe further that $sec, csc, tan,cot$ are all



  • non-negative on $(0,pi/2)$

  • convex on $(0,pi/2)$

these imply that $tan^2$ etc. are all convex functions on $(0,pi/2)$. Hence their sum is convex. A convex function can only have at most one critical point, and the critical point, if exists, is the global minimum.






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    Let $s=sin theta$ and $c=cos theta$, then



    beginalign
    E &= tan^2 theta+cot^2 theta+sin^2 theta+
    cos^2 theta+sec^2 theta+csc^2 theta \
    &= fracs^2c^2+fracc^2s^2+1+frac1c^2+frac1s^2 \
    &= fracs^4+c^4+s^2c^2+s^2+c^2s^2c^2 \
    &= frac(s^2+c^2)^2-s^2c^2+1s^2c^2 \
    &= frac2-s^2c^2s^2c^2 \
    &= frac2sin^2 theta cos^2 theta-1 \
    &= frac8sin^2 2theta-1 \
    & ge 7
    endalign






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      As per Dani's conjecture, $theta=fracpi4$ minimises $E$.
      – J.G.
      Jul 19 at 13:56










    • @J.G. its kind of a flunk.
      – prog_SAHIL
      Jul 19 at 14:02










    • @prog_SAHIL I assume that means it's not surprising?
      – J.G.
      Jul 19 at 14:34














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    Let $s=sin theta$ and $c=cos theta$, then



    beginalign
    E &= tan^2 theta+cot^2 theta+sin^2 theta+
    cos^2 theta+sec^2 theta+csc^2 theta \
    &= fracs^2c^2+fracc^2s^2+1+frac1c^2+frac1s^2 \
    &= fracs^4+c^4+s^2c^2+s^2+c^2s^2c^2 \
    &= frac(s^2+c^2)^2-s^2c^2+1s^2c^2 \
    &= frac2-s^2c^2s^2c^2 \
    &= frac2sin^2 theta cos^2 theta-1 \
    &= frac8sin^2 2theta-1 \
    & ge 7
    endalign






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      As per Dani's conjecture, $theta=fracpi4$ minimises $E$.
      – J.G.
      Jul 19 at 13:56










    • @J.G. its kind of a flunk.
      – prog_SAHIL
      Jul 19 at 14:02










    • @prog_SAHIL I assume that means it's not surprising?
      – J.G.
      Jul 19 at 14:34












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    Let $s=sin theta$ and $c=cos theta$, then



    beginalign
    E &= tan^2 theta+cot^2 theta+sin^2 theta+
    cos^2 theta+sec^2 theta+csc^2 theta \
    &= fracs^2c^2+fracc^2s^2+1+frac1c^2+frac1s^2 \
    &= fracs^4+c^4+s^2c^2+s^2+c^2s^2c^2 \
    &= frac(s^2+c^2)^2-s^2c^2+1s^2c^2 \
    &= frac2-s^2c^2s^2c^2 \
    &= frac2sin^2 theta cos^2 theta-1 \
    &= frac8sin^2 2theta-1 \
    & ge 7
    endalign






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    Let $s=sin theta$ and $c=cos theta$, then



    beginalign
    E &= tan^2 theta+cot^2 theta+sin^2 theta+
    cos^2 theta+sec^2 theta+csc^2 theta \
    &= fracs^2c^2+fracc^2s^2+1+frac1c^2+frac1s^2 \
    &= fracs^4+c^4+s^2c^2+s^2+c^2s^2c^2 \
    &= frac(s^2+c^2)^2-s^2c^2+1s^2c^2 \
    &= frac2-s^2c^2s^2c^2 \
    &= frac2sin^2 theta cos^2 theta-1 \
    &= frac8sin^2 2theta-1 \
    & ge 7
    endalign







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      As per Dani's conjecture, $theta=fracpi4$ minimises $E$.
      – J.G.
      Jul 19 at 13:56










    • @J.G. its kind of a flunk.
      – prog_SAHIL
      Jul 19 at 14:02










    • @prog_SAHIL I assume that means it's not surprising?
      – J.G.
      Jul 19 at 14:34












    • 1




      As per Dani's conjecture, $theta=fracpi4$ minimises $E$.
      – J.G.
      Jul 19 at 13:56










    • @J.G. its kind of a flunk.
      – prog_SAHIL
      Jul 19 at 14:02










    • @prog_SAHIL I assume that means it's not surprising?
      – J.G.
      Jul 19 at 14:34







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    As per Dani's conjecture, $theta=fracpi4$ minimises $E$.
    – J.G.
    Jul 19 at 13:56




    As per Dani's conjecture, $theta=fracpi4$ minimises $E$.
    – J.G.
    Jul 19 at 13:56












    @J.G. its kind of a flunk.
    – prog_SAHIL
    Jul 19 at 14:02




    @J.G. its kind of a flunk.
    – prog_SAHIL
    Jul 19 at 14:02












    @prog_SAHIL I assume that means it's not surprising?
    – J.G.
    Jul 19 at 14:34




    @prog_SAHIL I assume that means it's not surprising?
    – J.G.
    Jul 19 at 14:34










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    $$tan^2 theta + cot^2 theta + sin^2 theta + cos^2 theta + sec^2 theta+ textrmcosec^2 theta=3+2(tan^2theta+cot^2theta)$$



    Now $tan^2theta+cot^2theta=(cottheta-tantheta)^2+2ge?$



    the equality occurs if $cottheta-tantheta=0ifftan^2theta=1iffcos2theta=0iff2theta=(2m+1)dfracpi2$ where $m$ is any integer






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    • Thanks , this is very easy explaination.
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      Jul 19 at 14:33














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    $$tan^2 theta + cot^2 theta + sin^2 theta + cos^2 theta + sec^2 theta+ textrmcosec^2 theta=3+2(tan^2theta+cot^2theta)$$



    Now $tan^2theta+cot^2theta=(cottheta-tantheta)^2+2ge?$



    the equality occurs if $cottheta-tantheta=0ifftan^2theta=1iffcos2theta=0iff2theta=(2m+1)dfracpi2$ where $m$ is any integer






    share|cite|improve this answer





















    • Thanks , this is very easy explaination.
      – Dani
      Jul 19 at 14:33












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    up vote
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    $$tan^2 theta + cot^2 theta + sin^2 theta + cos^2 theta + sec^2 theta+ textrmcosec^2 theta=3+2(tan^2theta+cot^2theta)$$



    Now $tan^2theta+cot^2theta=(cottheta-tantheta)^2+2ge?$



    the equality occurs if $cottheta-tantheta=0ifftan^2theta=1iffcos2theta=0iff2theta=(2m+1)dfracpi2$ where $m$ is any integer






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    $$tan^2 theta + cot^2 theta + sin^2 theta + cos^2 theta + sec^2 theta+ textrmcosec^2 theta=3+2(tan^2theta+cot^2theta)$$



    Now $tan^2theta+cot^2theta=(cottheta-tantheta)^2+2ge?$



    the equality occurs if $cottheta-tantheta=0ifftan^2theta=1iffcos2theta=0iff2theta=(2m+1)dfracpi2$ where $m$ is any integer







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    • Thanks , this is very easy explaination.
      – Dani
      Jul 19 at 14:33
















    • Thanks , this is very easy explaination.
      – Dani
      Jul 19 at 14:33















    Thanks , this is very easy explaination.
    – Dani
    Jul 19 at 14:33




    Thanks , this is very easy explaination.
    – Dani
    Jul 19 at 14:33










    up vote
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    One can also answer using the "guess" that the value is attained at $theta= pi/4$.



    Guessing $theta$



    The expression you care about is



    • periodic with period $pi/2$; and

    • symmetric when you replace $theta$ by $pi/2 - theta$.

    So you just need to look at the range $theta in (0,pi/2)$; the endpoints are ruled out since your function is infinite there. The symmetry implies that $theta = pi/4$ is a critical point.



    $pi/4$ is the only critical point



    Observe that $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$. Observe further that $sec, csc, tan,cot$ are all



    • non-negative on $(0,pi/2)$

    • convex on $(0,pi/2)$

    these imply that $tan^2$ etc. are all convex functions on $(0,pi/2)$. Hence their sum is convex. A convex function can only have at most one critical point, and the critical point, if exists, is the global minimum.






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      One can also answer using the "guess" that the value is attained at $theta= pi/4$.



      Guessing $theta$



      The expression you care about is



      • periodic with period $pi/2$; and

      • symmetric when you replace $theta$ by $pi/2 - theta$.

      So you just need to look at the range $theta in (0,pi/2)$; the endpoints are ruled out since your function is infinite there. The symmetry implies that $theta = pi/4$ is a critical point.



      $pi/4$ is the only critical point



      Observe that $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$. Observe further that $sec, csc, tan,cot$ are all



      • non-negative on $(0,pi/2)$

      • convex on $(0,pi/2)$

      these imply that $tan^2$ etc. are all convex functions on $(0,pi/2)$. Hence their sum is convex. A convex function can only have at most one critical point, and the critical point, if exists, is the global minimum.






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        One can also answer using the "guess" that the value is attained at $theta= pi/4$.



        Guessing $theta$



        The expression you care about is



        • periodic with period $pi/2$; and

        • symmetric when you replace $theta$ by $pi/2 - theta$.

        So you just need to look at the range $theta in (0,pi/2)$; the endpoints are ruled out since your function is infinite there. The symmetry implies that $theta = pi/4$ is a critical point.



        $pi/4$ is the only critical point



        Observe that $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$. Observe further that $sec, csc, tan,cot$ are all



        • non-negative on $(0,pi/2)$

        • convex on $(0,pi/2)$

        these imply that $tan^2$ etc. are all convex functions on $(0,pi/2)$. Hence their sum is convex. A convex function can only have at most one critical point, and the critical point, if exists, is the global minimum.






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        One can also answer using the "guess" that the value is attained at $theta= pi/4$.



        Guessing $theta$



        The expression you care about is



        • periodic with period $pi/2$; and

        • symmetric when you replace $theta$ by $pi/2 - theta$.

        So you just need to look at the range $theta in (0,pi/2)$; the endpoints are ruled out since your function is infinite there. The symmetry implies that $theta = pi/4$ is a critical point.



        $pi/4$ is the only critical point



        Observe that $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$. Observe further that $sec, csc, tan,cot$ are all



        • non-negative on $(0,pi/2)$

        • convex on $(0,pi/2)$

        these imply that $tan^2$ etc. are all convex functions on $(0,pi/2)$. Hence their sum is convex. A convex function can only have at most one critical point, and the critical point, if exists, is the global minimum.







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