(a bit difficult) finding maximum and minimum maybe using Lagrange's multiplier

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I'm trying to solve the problem



"Finding the maximum and minimum of



$x^2+2y$



under the conditions $x^3+3xy+y^3=5, ygeq0$"



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    The first step is to check that a $min$ or $max$ exist. It is fairly straightforward to show that a $min$ exists, and a little work shows that the function is unbounded above.
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I'm trying to solve the problem



"Finding the maximum and minimum of



$x^2+2y$



under the conditions $x^3+3xy+y^3=5, ygeq0$"



I would super appriciate your help. Cheers.







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    The first step is to check that a $min$ or $max$ exist. It is fairly straightforward to show that a $min$ exists, and a little work shows that the function is unbounded above.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 17 at 3:54












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thanks for reading this first :D



I'm trying to solve the problem



"Finding the maximum and minimum of



$x^2+2y$



under the conditions $x^3+3xy+y^3=5, ygeq0$"



I would super appriciate your help. Cheers.







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thanks for reading this first :D



I'm trying to solve the problem



"Finding the maximum and minimum of



$x^2+2y$



under the conditions $x^3+3xy+y^3=5, ygeq0$"



I would super appriciate your help. Cheers.









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    The first step is to check that a $min$ or $max$ exist. It is fairly straightforward to show that a $min$ exists, and a little work shows that the function is unbounded above.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 17 at 3:54












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    The first step is to check that a $min$ or $max$ exist. It is fairly straightforward to show that a $min$ exists, and a little work shows that the function is unbounded above.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 17 at 3:54







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The first step is to check that a $min$ or $max$ exist. It is fairly straightforward to show that a $min$ exists, and a little work shows that the function is unbounded above.
– copper.hat
Jul 17 at 3:54




The first step is to check that a $min$ or $max$ exist. It is fairly straightforward to show that a $min$ exists, and a little work shows that the function is unbounded above.
– copper.hat
Jul 17 at 3:54










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I'm giving you some hint to get proceed. Use Lagrange multiplier.



The two equations will be $ 2x=k(3x^2+3y) $ and $2= k(3x+3y^2)$. From 1st equation put $k=0$ , you can easily check this holds no good as it demands $2=0$



Next divide those equations. You will get conditions like $y=0$ and $xy=1$. From $y=0$, you will immediately get a value of $x$.



On the equation $x^3+3xy+y^3=5$, put $xy=1$. You get solutions like $x+y=2$. And I'm sure you can proceed thereafter.






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  • I don't follow your hints. How can you just set $x=0$?
    – copper.hat
    Jul 17 at 4:15










  • I am sorry, I had mistakenly placed $x$ in place of $k$. Corrected now. And yes you have to check wheather maximum or minimum value exists.
    – Arnab Chowdhury
    Jul 17 at 4:22










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I'm giving you some hint to get proceed. Use Lagrange multiplier.



The two equations will be $ 2x=k(3x^2+3y) $ and $2= k(3x+3y^2)$. From 1st equation put $k=0$ , you can easily check this holds no good as it demands $2=0$



Next divide those equations. You will get conditions like $y=0$ and $xy=1$. From $y=0$, you will immediately get a value of $x$.



On the equation $x^3+3xy+y^3=5$, put $xy=1$. You get solutions like $x+y=2$. And I'm sure you can proceed thereafter.






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  • I don't follow your hints. How can you just set $x=0$?
    – copper.hat
    Jul 17 at 4:15










  • I am sorry, I had mistakenly placed $x$ in place of $k$. Corrected now. And yes you have to check wheather maximum or minimum value exists.
    – Arnab Chowdhury
    Jul 17 at 4:22














up vote
2
down vote



accepted










I'm giving you some hint to get proceed. Use Lagrange multiplier.



The two equations will be $ 2x=k(3x^2+3y) $ and $2= k(3x+3y^2)$. From 1st equation put $k=0$ , you can easily check this holds no good as it demands $2=0$



Next divide those equations. You will get conditions like $y=0$ and $xy=1$. From $y=0$, you will immediately get a value of $x$.



On the equation $x^3+3xy+y^3=5$, put $xy=1$. You get solutions like $x+y=2$. And I'm sure you can proceed thereafter.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • I don't follow your hints. How can you just set $x=0$?
    – copper.hat
    Jul 17 at 4:15










  • I am sorry, I had mistakenly placed $x$ in place of $k$. Corrected now. And yes you have to check wheather maximum or minimum value exists.
    – Arnab Chowdhury
    Jul 17 at 4:22












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I'm giving you some hint to get proceed. Use Lagrange multiplier.



The two equations will be $ 2x=k(3x^2+3y) $ and $2= k(3x+3y^2)$. From 1st equation put $k=0$ , you can easily check this holds no good as it demands $2=0$



Next divide those equations. You will get conditions like $y=0$ and $xy=1$. From $y=0$, you will immediately get a value of $x$.



On the equation $x^3+3xy+y^3=5$, put $xy=1$. You get solutions like $x+y=2$. And I'm sure you can proceed thereafter.






share|cite|improve this answer















I'm giving you some hint to get proceed. Use Lagrange multiplier.



The two equations will be $ 2x=k(3x^2+3y) $ and $2= k(3x+3y^2)$. From 1st equation put $k=0$ , you can easily check this holds no good as it demands $2=0$



Next divide those equations. You will get conditions like $y=0$ and $xy=1$. From $y=0$, you will immediately get a value of $x$.



On the equation $x^3+3xy+y^3=5$, put $xy=1$. You get solutions like $x+y=2$. And I'm sure you can proceed thereafter.







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  • I don't follow your hints. How can you just set $x=0$?
    – copper.hat
    Jul 17 at 4:15










  • I am sorry, I had mistakenly placed $x$ in place of $k$. Corrected now. And yes you have to check wheather maximum or minimum value exists.
    – Arnab Chowdhury
    Jul 17 at 4:22
















  • I don't follow your hints. How can you just set $x=0$?
    – copper.hat
    Jul 17 at 4:15










  • I am sorry, I had mistakenly placed $x$ in place of $k$. Corrected now. And yes you have to check wheather maximum or minimum value exists.
    – Arnab Chowdhury
    Jul 17 at 4:22















I don't follow your hints. How can you just set $x=0$?
– copper.hat
Jul 17 at 4:15




I don't follow your hints. How can you just set $x=0$?
– copper.hat
Jul 17 at 4:15












I am sorry, I had mistakenly placed $x$ in place of $k$. Corrected now. And yes you have to check wheather maximum or minimum value exists.
– Arnab Chowdhury
Jul 17 at 4:22




I am sorry, I had mistakenly placed $x$ in place of $k$. Corrected now. And yes you have to check wheather maximum or minimum value exists.
– Arnab Chowdhury
Jul 17 at 4:22












 

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