$sum_N=6^inftyfrac6NbinomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$

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Find the sum: $sumlimits_N=6^inftyfrac6NbinomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$




I could not find a way to manipulate $binomN-15$ to get any suitable form here. Note that $binomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$ are probability masses of negative binomial distribution.







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    Look here at the special cases of Binomial series. Then integrate once
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  • It seems that it doesn´t exist a closed form. See here what wolfram alpha figured out.
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    @callculus It looks like the first right parenthesis belongs at the end of the whole expression. See here
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  • @saulspatz Thanks for the correction. I haven´t noticed the misinterpretation of the parenthesis by w.a .
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  • Mathematica gives: $$frac60 p^6 log (p)-(p-1) p (p (p (p (137 p-163)+137)-63)+12)10 (p-1)^6$$ which suggests that manipulation will be rather difficult.
    – David G. Stork
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Find the sum: $sumlimits_N=6^inftyfrac6NbinomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$




I could not find a way to manipulate $binomN-15$ to get any suitable form here. Note that $binomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$ are probability masses of negative binomial distribution.







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    Look here at the special cases of Binomial series. Then integrate once
    – Rumpelstiltskin
    Jul 16 at 18:12











  • It seems that it doesn´t exist a closed form. See here what wolfram alpha figured out.
    – callculus
    Jul 16 at 18:33






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    @callculus It looks like the first right parenthesis belongs at the end of the whole expression. See here
    – saulspatz
    Jul 16 at 18:38










  • @saulspatz Thanks for the correction. I haven´t noticed the misinterpretation of the parenthesis by w.a .
    – callculus
    Jul 16 at 18:41











  • Mathematica gives: $$frac60 p^6 log (p)-(p-1) p (p (p (p (137 p-163)+137)-63)+12)10 (p-1)^6$$ which suggests that manipulation will be rather difficult.
    – David G. Stork
    Jul 16 at 18:49












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Find the sum: $sumlimits_N=6^inftyfrac6NbinomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$




I could not find a way to manipulate $binomN-15$ to get any suitable form here. Note that $binomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$ are probability masses of negative binomial distribution.







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Find the sum: $sumlimits_N=6^inftyfrac6NbinomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$




I could not find a way to manipulate $binomN-15$ to get any suitable form here. Note that $binomN-15p^6(1-p)^N-6$ are probability masses of negative binomial distribution.









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    Look here at the special cases of Binomial series. Then integrate once
    – Rumpelstiltskin
    Jul 16 at 18:12











  • It seems that it doesn´t exist a closed form. See here what wolfram alpha figured out.
    – callculus
    Jul 16 at 18:33






  • 1




    @callculus It looks like the first right parenthesis belongs at the end of the whole expression. See here
    – saulspatz
    Jul 16 at 18:38










  • @saulspatz Thanks for the correction. I haven´t noticed the misinterpretation of the parenthesis by w.a .
    – callculus
    Jul 16 at 18:41











  • Mathematica gives: $$frac60 p^6 log (p)-(p-1) p (p (p (p (137 p-163)+137)-63)+12)10 (p-1)^6$$ which suggests that manipulation will be rather difficult.
    – David G. Stork
    Jul 16 at 18:49












  • 1




    Look here at the special cases of Binomial series. Then integrate once
    – Rumpelstiltskin
    Jul 16 at 18:12











  • It seems that it doesn´t exist a closed form. See here what wolfram alpha figured out.
    – callculus
    Jul 16 at 18:33






  • 1




    @callculus It looks like the first right parenthesis belongs at the end of the whole expression. See here
    – saulspatz
    Jul 16 at 18:38










  • @saulspatz Thanks for the correction. I haven´t noticed the misinterpretation of the parenthesis by w.a .
    – callculus
    Jul 16 at 18:41











  • Mathematica gives: $$frac60 p^6 log (p)-(p-1) p (p (p (p (137 p-163)+137)-63)+12)10 (p-1)^6$$ which suggests that manipulation will be rather difficult.
    – David G. Stork
    Jul 16 at 18:49







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Look here at the special cases of Binomial series. Then integrate once
– Rumpelstiltskin
Jul 16 at 18:12





Look here at the special cases of Binomial series. Then integrate once
– Rumpelstiltskin
Jul 16 at 18:12













It seems that it doesn´t exist a closed form. See here what wolfram alpha figured out.
– callculus
Jul 16 at 18:33




It seems that it doesn´t exist a closed form. See here what wolfram alpha figured out.
– callculus
Jul 16 at 18:33




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1




@callculus It looks like the first right parenthesis belongs at the end of the whole expression. See here
– saulspatz
Jul 16 at 18:38




@callculus It looks like the first right parenthesis belongs at the end of the whole expression. See here
– saulspatz
Jul 16 at 18:38












@saulspatz Thanks for the correction. I haven´t noticed the misinterpretation of the parenthesis by w.a .
– callculus
Jul 16 at 18:41





@saulspatz Thanks for the correction. I haven´t noticed the misinterpretation of the parenthesis by w.a .
– callculus
Jul 16 at 18:41













Mathematica gives: $$frac60 p^6 log (p)-(p-1) p (p (p (p (137 p-163)+137)-63)+12)10 (p-1)^6$$ which suggests that manipulation will be rather difficult.
– David G. Stork
Jul 16 at 18:49




Mathematica gives: $$frac60 p^6 log (p)-(p-1) p (p (p (p (137 p-163)+137)-63)+12)10 (p-1)^6$$ which suggests that manipulation will be rather difficult.
– David G. Stork
Jul 16 at 18:49










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What we want to find:
$$sum_k=0^infty frac6k+6binomk+5kp^6(1-p)^k =S(p) $$
What we know from Binomial series:
$$sum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k =frac1(1-z)^6 $$
Some manipulation, and integration:
$$int_0^1-xsum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k+5 dz =sum_k=0^infty frac1k+6binomk+5k(1-x)^k+6 = int_0^1-x fracz^5(1-z)^6dz = frac300x^4-300x^3+200x^2-75x+1260x^5+ln(x)-frac13760 $$
After substitution, and some multiplying by constants:
$$S(p) =frac300p^5-300p^4+200p^3-75p^2+12p10(1-p)^6+frac6p^6ln(p)(1-p)^6-frac137p^610(1-p)^6 $$






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    What we want to find:
    $$sum_k=0^infty frac6k+6binomk+5kp^6(1-p)^k =S(p) $$
    What we know from Binomial series:
    $$sum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k =frac1(1-z)^6 $$
    Some manipulation, and integration:
    $$int_0^1-xsum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k+5 dz =sum_k=0^infty frac1k+6binomk+5k(1-x)^k+6 = int_0^1-x fracz^5(1-z)^6dz = frac300x^4-300x^3+200x^2-75x+1260x^5+ln(x)-frac13760 $$
    After substitution, and some multiplying by constants:
    $$S(p) =frac300p^5-300p^4+200p^3-75p^2+12p10(1-p)^6+frac6p^6ln(p)(1-p)^6-frac137p^610(1-p)^6 $$






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      What we want to find:
      $$sum_k=0^infty frac6k+6binomk+5kp^6(1-p)^k =S(p) $$
      What we know from Binomial series:
      $$sum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k =frac1(1-z)^6 $$
      Some manipulation, and integration:
      $$int_0^1-xsum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k+5 dz =sum_k=0^infty frac1k+6binomk+5k(1-x)^k+6 = int_0^1-x fracz^5(1-z)^6dz = frac300x^4-300x^3+200x^2-75x+1260x^5+ln(x)-frac13760 $$
      After substitution, and some multiplying by constants:
      $$S(p) =frac300p^5-300p^4+200p^3-75p^2+12p10(1-p)^6+frac6p^6ln(p)(1-p)^6-frac137p^610(1-p)^6 $$






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        What we want to find:
        $$sum_k=0^infty frac6k+6binomk+5kp^6(1-p)^k =S(p) $$
        What we know from Binomial series:
        $$sum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k =frac1(1-z)^6 $$
        Some manipulation, and integration:
        $$int_0^1-xsum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k+5 dz =sum_k=0^infty frac1k+6binomk+5k(1-x)^k+6 = int_0^1-x fracz^5(1-z)^6dz = frac300x^4-300x^3+200x^2-75x+1260x^5+ln(x)-frac13760 $$
        After substitution, and some multiplying by constants:
        $$S(p) =frac300p^5-300p^4+200p^3-75p^2+12p10(1-p)^6+frac6p^6ln(p)(1-p)^6-frac137p^610(1-p)^6 $$






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        What we want to find:
        $$sum_k=0^infty frac6k+6binomk+5kp^6(1-p)^k =S(p) $$
        What we know from Binomial series:
        $$sum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k =frac1(1-z)^6 $$
        Some manipulation, and integration:
        $$int_0^1-xsum_k=0^infty binomk+5kz^k+5 dz =sum_k=0^infty frac1k+6binomk+5k(1-x)^k+6 = int_0^1-x fracz^5(1-z)^6dz = frac300x^4-300x^3+200x^2-75x+1260x^5+ln(x)-frac13760 $$
        After substitution, and some multiplying by constants:
        $$S(p) =frac300p^5-300p^4+200p^3-75p^2+12p10(1-p)^6+frac6p^6ln(p)(1-p)^6-frac137p^610(1-p)^6 $$







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