A question about the statement of the Prime Avoidance Lemma.
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The Prime Avoidance Lemma states the following:
Suppose $I_1,I_2,dots,I_n,J$ are ideals of a ring $R$, such that $Jsubset cup U_i$. If $R$ contains an infinite field, or if at most $2$ of the ideals $I_1,dots,I_n$ are prime, then $Jsubset I_k$ for some $k$.
Consider $(4)cup (6)$ as ideals of the ring $BbbZ$. Although it does not contain in infinite field, the ideals $(6)$ and $(4)$ satisfy the criterion of at most two ideals being not prime. Hence, the condition of the prime avoidance lemma is satisfied. However, $(14)subset (4)cup (6)$, and $(14)$ is not contained within either of $(4)$ or $(6)$. Is this not a counter-example? Where am I going wrong?
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The Prime Avoidance Lemma states the following:
Suppose $I_1,I_2,dots,I_n,J$ are ideals of a ring $R$, such that $Jsubset cup U_i$. If $R$ contains an infinite field, or if at most $2$ of the ideals $I_1,dots,I_n$ are prime, then $Jsubset I_k$ for some $k$.
Consider $(4)cup (6)$ as ideals of the ring $BbbZ$. Although it does not contain in infinite field, the ideals $(6)$ and $(4)$ satisfy the criterion of at most two ideals being not prime. Hence, the condition of the prime avoidance lemma is satisfied. However, $(14)subset (4)cup (6)$, and $(14)$ is not contained within either of $(4)$ or $(6)$. Is this not a counter-example? Where am I going wrong?
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@Randall- Yeah sorry I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$
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The Prime Avoidance Lemma states the following:
Suppose $I_1,I_2,dots,I_n,J$ are ideals of a ring $R$, such that $Jsubset cup U_i$. If $R$ contains an infinite field, or if at most $2$ of the ideals $I_1,dots,I_n$ are prime, then $Jsubset I_k$ for some $k$.
Consider $(4)cup (6)$ as ideals of the ring $BbbZ$. Although it does not contain in infinite field, the ideals $(6)$ and $(4)$ satisfy the criterion of at most two ideals being not prime. Hence, the condition of the prime avoidance lemma is satisfied. However, $(14)subset (4)cup (6)$, and $(14)$ is not contained within either of $(4)$ or $(6)$. Is this not a counter-example? Where am I going wrong?
commutative-algebra
The Prime Avoidance Lemma states the following:
Suppose $I_1,I_2,dots,I_n,J$ are ideals of a ring $R$, such that $Jsubset cup U_i$. If $R$ contains an infinite field, or if at most $2$ of the ideals $I_1,dots,I_n$ are prime, then $Jsubset I_k$ for some $k$.
Consider $(4)cup (6)$ as ideals of the ring $BbbZ$. Although it does not contain in infinite field, the ideals $(6)$ and $(4)$ satisfy the criterion of at most two ideals being not prime. Hence, the condition of the prime avoidance lemma is satisfied. However, $(14)subset (4)cup (6)$, and $(14)$ is not contained within either of $(4)$ or $(6)$. Is this not a counter-example? Where am I going wrong?
commutative-algebra
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@Randall- Yeah sorry I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$
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@Randall- Yeah sorry I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:33
@Randall- Yeah sorry I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:33
@Randall- Yeah sorry I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:33
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$(14)$ isn't contained in the union $(4) cup (6)$, which only contains numbers divisible by either $4$ or $6$, but only in the larger set given by the ideal sum $(4)mathbf+(6)=(2)$.
Ah yes. I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$. Thanks!
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$(14)$ isn't contained in the union $(4) cup (6)$, which only contains numbers divisible by either $4$ or $6$, but only in the larger set given by the ideal sum $(4)mathbf+(6)=(2)$.
Ah yes. I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$. Thanks!
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:29
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$(14)$ isn't contained in the union $(4) cup (6)$, which only contains numbers divisible by either $4$ or $6$, but only in the larger set given by the ideal sum $(4)mathbf+(6)=(2)$.
Ah yes. I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$. Thanks!
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:29
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$(14)$ isn't contained in the union $(4) cup (6)$, which only contains numbers divisible by either $4$ or $6$, but only in the larger set given by the ideal sum $(4)mathbf+(6)=(2)$.
$(14)$ isn't contained in the union $(4) cup (6)$, which only contains numbers divisible by either $4$ or $6$, but only in the larger set given by the ideal sum $(4)mathbf+(6)=(2)$.
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Ah yes. I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$. Thanks!
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:29
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Ah yes. I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$. Thanks!
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:29
Ah yes. I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$. Thanks!
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:29
Ah yes. I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$. Thanks!
– fierydemon
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@Randall- Yeah sorry I was confusing $(4)cup (6)$ with $(4)+(6)$
– fierydemon
Jul 30 at 17:33