Finding the $n$-th derivative of $a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$

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Let $f(x)= a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$.
I am trying to find $f^n(x)$.




By applying the power rule $n$ times, I get this
$$f^n(x)=a_n(ncdot n)x^n-n+cdots+ a_1$$
which I think can be simplified to
$$f^n(x)=a_nn^2+cdots+ a_1$$



However, I don't think I have the correct answer, as my exercise book is telling me the answer is.
$$a_n,ncdot(n-1)cdot,cdots,cdot 1$$



What did I do wrong? I'm under the impression I have done multiple mistakes.







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    Start with $,left(x^nright)' = n x^n-1,$, $,left(x^nright)'' = n(n-1) x^n-2,$, $,left(x^nright)''' = n(n-1)(n-2) x^n-3 ,ldots,$
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  • Hint: $(x^n)' = n x^n-1$, but $(nx^n-1)' = n(n-1) x^n-2$, and so on. Repeated application of the power rule give a falling factorial coefficient.
    – Xander Henderson
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  • The exercise book should say the answer is $a_nn(n-1)...1$.
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  • You are right, that is the answer in the book. I badly transcribed it, I modified my question. Thank you
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Let $f(x)= a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$.
I am trying to find $f^n(x)$.




By applying the power rule $n$ times, I get this
$$f^n(x)=a_n(ncdot n)x^n-n+cdots+ a_1$$
which I think can be simplified to
$$f^n(x)=a_nn^2+cdots+ a_1$$



However, I don't think I have the correct answer, as my exercise book is telling me the answer is.
$$a_n,ncdot(n-1)cdot,cdots,cdot 1$$



What did I do wrong? I'm under the impression I have done multiple mistakes.







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    Start with $,left(x^nright)' = n x^n-1,$, $,left(x^nright)'' = n(n-1) x^n-2,$, $,left(x^nright)''' = n(n-1)(n-2) x^n-3 ,ldots,$
    – dxiv
    Jul 30 at 0:34











  • Hint: $(x^n)' = n x^n-1$, but $(nx^n-1)' = n(n-1) x^n-2$, and so on. Repeated application of the power rule give a falling factorial coefficient.
    – Xander Henderson
    Jul 30 at 0:35










  • The exercise book should say the answer is $a_nn(n-1)...1$.
    – é«˜ç”°èˆª
    Jul 30 at 0:39










  • You are right, that is the answer in the book. I badly transcribed it, I modified my question. Thank you
    – Cedric Martens
    Jul 30 at 0:41












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Let $f(x)= a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$.
I am trying to find $f^n(x)$.




By applying the power rule $n$ times, I get this
$$f^n(x)=a_n(ncdot n)x^n-n+cdots+ a_1$$
which I think can be simplified to
$$f^n(x)=a_nn^2+cdots+ a_1$$



However, I don't think I have the correct answer, as my exercise book is telling me the answer is.
$$a_n,ncdot(n-1)cdot,cdots,cdot 1$$



What did I do wrong? I'm under the impression I have done multiple mistakes.







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Let $f(x)= a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$.
I am trying to find $f^n(x)$.




By applying the power rule $n$ times, I get this
$$f^n(x)=a_n(ncdot n)x^n-n+cdots+ a_1$$
which I think can be simplified to
$$f^n(x)=a_nn^2+cdots+ a_1$$



However, I don't think I have the correct answer, as my exercise book is telling me the answer is.
$$a_n,ncdot(n-1)cdot,cdots,cdot 1$$



What did I do wrong? I'm under the impression I have done multiple mistakes.









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    Start with $,left(x^nright)' = n x^n-1,$, $,left(x^nright)'' = n(n-1) x^n-2,$, $,left(x^nright)''' = n(n-1)(n-2) x^n-3 ,ldots,$
    – dxiv
    Jul 30 at 0:34











  • Hint: $(x^n)' = n x^n-1$, but $(nx^n-1)' = n(n-1) x^n-2$, and so on. Repeated application of the power rule give a falling factorial coefficient.
    – Xander Henderson
    Jul 30 at 0:35










  • The exercise book should say the answer is $a_nn(n-1)...1$.
    – é«˜ç”°èˆª
    Jul 30 at 0:39










  • You are right, that is the answer in the book. I badly transcribed it, I modified my question. Thank you
    – Cedric Martens
    Jul 30 at 0:41












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    Start with $,left(x^nright)' = n x^n-1,$, $,left(x^nright)'' = n(n-1) x^n-2,$, $,left(x^nright)''' = n(n-1)(n-2) x^n-3 ,ldots,$
    – dxiv
    Jul 30 at 0:34











  • Hint: $(x^n)' = n x^n-1$, but $(nx^n-1)' = n(n-1) x^n-2$, and so on. Repeated application of the power rule give a falling factorial coefficient.
    – Xander Henderson
    Jul 30 at 0:35










  • The exercise book should say the answer is $a_nn(n-1)...1$.
    – é«˜ç”°èˆª
    Jul 30 at 0:39










  • You are right, that is the answer in the book. I badly transcribed it, I modified my question. Thank you
    – Cedric Martens
    Jul 30 at 0:41







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Start with $,left(x^nright)' = n x^n-1,$, $,left(x^nright)'' = n(n-1) x^n-2,$, $,left(x^nright)''' = n(n-1)(n-2) x^n-3 ,ldots,$
– dxiv
Jul 30 at 0:34





Start with $,left(x^nright)' = n x^n-1,$, $,left(x^nright)'' = n(n-1) x^n-2,$, $,left(x^nright)''' = n(n-1)(n-2) x^n-3 ,ldots,$
– dxiv
Jul 30 at 0:34













Hint: $(x^n)' = n x^n-1$, but $(nx^n-1)' = n(n-1) x^n-2$, and so on. Repeated application of the power rule give a falling factorial coefficient.
– Xander Henderson
Jul 30 at 0:35




Hint: $(x^n)' = n x^n-1$, but $(nx^n-1)' = n(n-1) x^n-2$, and so on. Repeated application of the power rule give a falling factorial coefficient.
– Xander Henderson
Jul 30 at 0:35












The exercise book should say the answer is $a_nn(n-1)...1$.
– é«˜ç”°èˆª
Jul 30 at 0:39




The exercise book should say the answer is $a_nn(n-1)...1$.
– é«˜ç”°èˆª
Jul 30 at 0:39












You are right, that is the answer in the book. I badly transcribed it, I modified my question. Thank you
– Cedric Martens
Jul 30 at 0:41




You are right, that is the answer in the book. I badly transcribed it, I modified my question. Thank you
– Cedric Martens
Jul 30 at 0:41










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Recall that the power rule for differentiation states:




Let $f(x)=x^n$ for some $ninmathbbRbackslashlbrace 0rbrace$. Then,
$$fracddxf(x)=nx^n-1$$




Also recall that differentiation is linear in the sense that $$fracddx[f_1(x)+f_2(x)+cdots+f_k(x)]=fracddxf_1(x)+fracddxf_2(x)+cdots+fracddxf_k(x)$$
Now consider your function $f(x)=a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$. Differentiating and applying linearity, we obtain
$$fracddxf(x)=fracddxa_nx^n+fracddxa_n-1x^n-1+cdots+fracddxa_1x+fracddxa_0$$
The constant term at the end becomes $0$, since the derivative of a constant is always $0$. The second to last term, $fracddxa_1x$ is simply $a_1$, since the derivative of a line is always its slope. As for the other terms, we simply apply the power rule. After completing the first round of differentiation, we should have something like this:
$$f^1(x)=a_nnx^n-1+a_n-1x^n-2+cdots+a_2x+a_1$$
If we keep repeating the differentiation process, you will see that there is always a constant term $a_m$ at the end which just becomes $0$. Since $f(x)$ has $n+1$ terms (each $a_ix^i$ from $i=0$ up to $i=n$), after $n$ rounds of differentiation, you should have eliminated all the terms except for the very first one: $a_nx^n$. Applying the power rule to just that term, we get:
beginalign
fracddxa_nx_n &=a_nnx^n-1\
fracddxa_nnx^n-1 & = a_nn(n-1)x^n-2\
fracddxa_nn(n-1)x^n-2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)x^n-3
\ &vdots
\ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)x^2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x
\ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x&=a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)(1)
\ & = a_ncdot n!
endalign






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    First, you should convince yourself that all the terms on the right after the first do not contribute because you eventually take the derivative of a constant, which is zero.



    Then do it by hand for $n=3$. We want the third derivative of $a_3x^3$. The first derivative is $3a_3x^2$, the second is $3cdot 2 a_3x$, the third is $3cdot 2 cdot 1a_3=3!a_3$



    Now convince yourself that this is general and $f^n(x)=a_nn!$



    Your proposed answer has two problems: the exponent decreases by $1$ each time you take a derivative so the second one should be $n-1$ and there are $n$ derivatives, not $2$. The numbers you bring down are multiplied, not added.






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      Recall that the power rule for differentiation states:




      Let $f(x)=x^n$ for some $ninmathbbRbackslashlbrace 0rbrace$. Then,
      $$fracddxf(x)=nx^n-1$$




      Also recall that differentiation is linear in the sense that $$fracddx[f_1(x)+f_2(x)+cdots+f_k(x)]=fracddxf_1(x)+fracddxf_2(x)+cdots+fracddxf_k(x)$$
      Now consider your function $f(x)=a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$. Differentiating and applying linearity, we obtain
      $$fracddxf(x)=fracddxa_nx^n+fracddxa_n-1x^n-1+cdots+fracddxa_1x+fracddxa_0$$
      The constant term at the end becomes $0$, since the derivative of a constant is always $0$. The second to last term, $fracddxa_1x$ is simply $a_1$, since the derivative of a line is always its slope. As for the other terms, we simply apply the power rule. After completing the first round of differentiation, we should have something like this:
      $$f^1(x)=a_nnx^n-1+a_n-1x^n-2+cdots+a_2x+a_1$$
      If we keep repeating the differentiation process, you will see that there is always a constant term $a_m$ at the end which just becomes $0$. Since $f(x)$ has $n+1$ terms (each $a_ix^i$ from $i=0$ up to $i=n$), after $n$ rounds of differentiation, you should have eliminated all the terms except for the very first one: $a_nx^n$. Applying the power rule to just that term, we get:
      beginalign
      fracddxa_nx_n &=a_nnx^n-1\
      fracddxa_nnx^n-1 & = a_nn(n-1)x^n-2\
      fracddxa_nn(n-1)x^n-2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)x^n-3
      \ &vdots
      \ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)x^2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x
      \ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x&=a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)(1)
      \ & = a_ncdot n!
      endalign






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        Recall that the power rule for differentiation states:




        Let $f(x)=x^n$ for some $ninmathbbRbackslashlbrace 0rbrace$. Then,
        $$fracddxf(x)=nx^n-1$$




        Also recall that differentiation is linear in the sense that $$fracddx[f_1(x)+f_2(x)+cdots+f_k(x)]=fracddxf_1(x)+fracddxf_2(x)+cdots+fracddxf_k(x)$$
        Now consider your function $f(x)=a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$. Differentiating and applying linearity, we obtain
        $$fracddxf(x)=fracddxa_nx^n+fracddxa_n-1x^n-1+cdots+fracddxa_1x+fracddxa_0$$
        The constant term at the end becomes $0$, since the derivative of a constant is always $0$. The second to last term, $fracddxa_1x$ is simply $a_1$, since the derivative of a line is always its slope. As for the other terms, we simply apply the power rule. After completing the first round of differentiation, we should have something like this:
        $$f^1(x)=a_nnx^n-1+a_n-1x^n-2+cdots+a_2x+a_1$$
        If we keep repeating the differentiation process, you will see that there is always a constant term $a_m$ at the end which just becomes $0$. Since $f(x)$ has $n+1$ terms (each $a_ix^i$ from $i=0$ up to $i=n$), after $n$ rounds of differentiation, you should have eliminated all the terms except for the very first one: $a_nx^n$. Applying the power rule to just that term, we get:
        beginalign
        fracddxa_nx_n &=a_nnx^n-1\
        fracddxa_nnx^n-1 & = a_nn(n-1)x^n-2\
        fracddxa_nn(n-1)x^n-2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)x^n-3
        \ &vdots
        \ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)x^2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x
        \ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x&=a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)(1)
        \ & = a_ncdot n!
        endalign






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          Recall that the power rule for differentiation states:




          Let $f(x)=x^n$ for some $ninmathbbRbackslashlbrace 0rbrace$. Then,
          $$fracddxf(x)=nx^n-1$$




          Also recall that differentiation is linear in the sense that $$fracddx[f_1(x)+f_2(x)+cdots+f_k(x)]=fracddxf_1(x)+fracddxf_2(x)+cdots+fracddxf_k(x)$$
          Now consider your function $f(x)=a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$. Differentiating and applying linearity, we obtain
          $$fracddxf(x)=fracddxa_nx^n+fracddxa_n-1x^n-1+cdots+fracddxa_1x+fracddxa_0$$
          The constant term at the end becomes $0$, since the derivative of a constant is always $0$. The second to last term, $fracddxa_1x$ is simply $a_1$, since the derivative of a line is always its slope. As for the other terms, we simply apply the power rule. After completing the first round of differentiation, we should have something like this:
          $$f^1(x)=a_nnx^n-1+a_n-1x^n-2+cdots+a_2x+a_1$$
          If we keep repeating the differentiation process, you will see that there is always a constant term $a_m$ at the end which just becomes $0$. Since $f(x)$ has $n+1$ terms (each $a_ix^i$ from $i=0$ up to $i=n$), after $n$ rounds of differentiation, you should have eliminated all the terms except for the very first one: $a_nx^n$. Applying the power rule to just that term, we get:
          beginalign
          fracddxa_nx_n &=a_nnx^n-1\
          fracddxa_nnx^n-1 & = a_nn(n-1)x^n-2\
          fracddxa_nn(n-1)x^n-2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)x^n-3
          \ &vdots
          \ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)x^2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x
          \ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x&=a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)(1)
          \ & = a_ncdot n!
          endalign






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          Recall that the power rule for differentiation states:




          Let $f(x)=x^n$ for some $ninmathbbRbackslashlbrace 0rbrace$. Then,
          $$fracddxf(x)=nx^n-1$$




          Also recall that differentiation is linear in the sense that $$fracddx[f_1(x)+f_2(x)+cdots+f_k(x)]=fracddxf_1(x)+fracddxf_2(x)+cdots+fracddxf_k(x)$$
          Now consider your function $f(x)=a_nx^n+a_n-1x^n-1+cdots+a_1x+a_0$. Differentiating and applying linearity, we obtain
          $$fracddxf(x)=fracddxa_nx^n+fracddxa_n-1x^n-1+cdots+fracddxa_1x+fracddxa_0$$
          The constant term at the end becomes $0$, since the derivative of a constant is always $0$. The second to last term, $fracddxa_1x$ is simply $a_1$, since the derivative of a line is always its slope. As for the other terms, we simply apply the power rule. After completing the first round of differentiation, we should have something like this:
          $$f^1(x)=a_nnx^n-1+a_n-1x^n-2+cdots+a_2x+a_1$$
          If we keep repeating the differentiation process, you will see that there is always a constant term $a_m$ at the end which just becomes $0$. Since $f(x)$ has $n+1$ terms (each $a_ix^i$ from $i=0$ up to $i=n$), after $n$ rounds of differentiation, you should have eliminated all the terms except for the very first one: $a_nx^n$. Applying the power rule to just that term, we get:
          beginalign
          fracddxa_nx_n &=a_nnx^n-1\
          fracddxa_nnx^n-1 & = a_nn(n-1)x^n-2\
          fracddxa_nn(n-1)x^n-2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)x^n-3
          \ &vdots
          \ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)x^2& =a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x
          \ fracddxa_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)x&=a_nn(n-1)(n-2)cdots(3)(2)(1)
          \ & = a_ncdot n!
          endalign







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              First, you should convince yourself that all the terms on the right after the first do not contribute because you eventually take the derivative of a constant, which is zero.



              Then do it by hand for $n=3$. We want the third derivative of $a_3x^3$. The first derivative is $3a_3x^2$, the second is $3cdot 2 a_3x$, the third is $3cdot 2 cdot 1a_3=3!a_3$



              Now convince yourself that this is general and $f^n(x)=a_nn!$



              Your proposed answer has two problems: the exponent decreases by $1$ each time you take a derivative so the second one should be $n-1$ and there are $n$ derivatives, not $2$. The numbers you bring down are multiplied, not added.






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                First, you should convince yourself that all the terms on the right after the first do not contribute because you eventually take the derivative of a constant, which is zero.



                Then do it by hand for $n=3$. We want the third derivative of $a_3x^3$. The first derivative is $3a_3x^2$, the second is $3cdot 2 a_3x$, the third is $3cdot 2 cdot 1a_3=3!a_3$



                Now convince yourself that this is general and $f^n(x)=a_nn!$



                Your proposed answer has two problems: the exponent decreases by $1$ each time you take a derivative so the second one should be $n-1$ and there are $n$ derivatives, not $2$. The numbers you bring down are multiplied, not added.






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                  First, you should convince yourself that all the terms on the right after the first do not contribute because you eventually take the derivative of a constant, which is zero.



                  Then do it by hand for $n=3$. We want the third derivative of $a_3x^3$. The first derivative is $3a_3x^2$, the second is $3cdot 2 a_3x$, the third is $3cdot 2 cdot 1a_3=3!a_3$



                  Now convince yourself that this is general and $f^n(x)=a_nn!$



                  Your proposed answer has two problems: the exponent decreases by $1$ each time you take a derivative so the second one should be $n-1$ and there are $n$ derivatives, not $2$. The numbers you bring down are multiplied, not added.






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                  First, you should convince yourself that all the terms on the right after the first do not contribute because you eventually take the derivative of a constant, which is zero.



                  Then do it by hand for $n=3$. We want the third derivative of $a_3x^3$. The first derivative is $3a_3x^2$, the second is $3cdot 2 a_3x$, the third is $3cdot 2 cdot 1a_3=3!a_3$



                  Now convince yourself that this is general and $f^n(x)=a_nn!$



                  Your proposed answer has two problems: the exponent decreases by $1$ each time you take a derivative so the second one should be $n-1$ and there are $n$ derivatives, not $2$. The numbers you bring down are multiplied, not added.







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