Given $a>0$, $frac1x^2+a^2$ is not a Schwarz function.

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Given $a>0$, $f(x) = frac1x^2+a^2$ is not a Schwarz function.



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Although Poisson Sumation formula is working for this function $f$, I think it is not Schwarz, since $f’(x)=-2x(x^2+a^2)^-2$, and $lim_x to infty |-2x^5(x^2+a^2)^-2| = infty$, so for $alpha = 4$ and $beta = 1$ there cannot exist $C_alpha,beta$ such that $|x^alphaf^(beta)(x)|leq C_alpha,beta$.



Also, in Schwarz space can it be taken $alpha, beta = 0$?







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    One (necessary but not sufficient) condition for a function to be a Schwarz function is that $forall n in mathbb N, lim_x rightarrow infty x^n f(x) = 0$.
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    Jul 25 at 0:16










  • this answers both of my questions, right? it is not schwarz and I can take $alpha,beta=0$ in schwarz definition.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:18







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    It is indeed not Schwarz, but the Schwarz definition must hold for all $alpha, beta$, not just one couple.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:20






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    Yeah, both being 0 is also included in the set of all $alpha, beta$ indeed.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:22














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Given $a>0$, $f(x) = frac1x^2+a^2$ is not a Schwarz function.



Please verify if this is correct:



Although Poisson Sumation formula is working for this function $f$, I think it is not Schwarz, since $f’(x)=-2x(x^2+a^2)^-2$, and $lim_x to infty |-2x^5(x^2+a^2)^-2| = infty$, so for $alpha = 4$ and $beta = 1$ there cannot exist $C_alpha,beta$ such that $|x^alphaf^(beta)(x)|leq C_alpha,beta$.



Also, in Schwarz space can it be taken $alpha, beta = 0$?







share|cite|improve this question





















  • (my derivative was wrong. fixed.)
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:10






  • 1




    One (necessary but not sufficient) condition for a function to be a Schwarz function is that $forall n in mathbb N, lim_x rightarrow infty x^n f(x) = 0$.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:16










  • this answers both of my questions, right? it is not schwarz and I can take $alpha,beta=0$ in schwarz definition.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:18







  • 1




    It is indeed not Schwarz, but the Schwarz definition must hold for all $alpha, beta$, not just one couple.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:20






  • 1




    Yeah, both being 0 is also included in the set of all $alpha, beta$ indeed.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:22












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Given $a>0$, $f(x) = frac1x^2+a^2$ is not a Schwarz function.



Please verify if this is correct:



Although Poisson Sumation formula is working for this function $f$, I think it is not Schwarz, since $f’(x)=-2x(x^2+a^2)^-2$, and $lim_x to infty |-2x^5(x^2+a^2)^-2| = infty$, so for $alpha = 4$ and $beta = 1$ there cannot exist $C_alpha,beta$ such that $|x^alphaf^(beta)(x)|leq C_alpha,beta$.



Also, in Schwarz space can it be taken $alpha, beta = 0$?







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Given $a>0$, $f(x) = frac1x^2+a^2$ is not a Schwarz function.



Please verify if this is correct:



Although Poisson Sumation formula is working for this function $f$, I think it is not Schwarz, since $f’(x)=-2x(x^2+a^2)^-2$, and $lim_x to infty |-2x^5(x^2+a^2)^-2| = infty$, so for $alpha = 4$ and $beta = 1$ there cannot exist $C_alpha,beta$ such that $|x^alphaf^(beta)(x)|leq C_alpha,beta$.



Also, in Schwarz space can it be taken $alpha, beta = 0$?









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  • (my derivative was wrong. fixed.)
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    One (necessary but not sufficient) condition for a function to be a Schwarz function is that $forall n in mathbb N, lim_x rightarrow infty x^n f(x) = 0$.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:16










  • this answers both of my questions, right? it is not schwarz and I can take $alpha,beta=0$ in schwarz definition.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:18







  • 1




    It is indeed not Schwarz, but the Schwarz definition must hold for all $alpha, beta$, not just one couple.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:20






  • 1




    Yeah, both being 0 is also included in the set of all $alpha, beta$ indeed.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:22
















  • (my derivative was wrong. fixed.)
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:10






  • 1




    One (necessary but not sufficient) condition for a function to be a Schwarz function is that $forall n in mathbb N, lim_x rightarrow infty x^n f(x) = 0$.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:16










  • this answers both of my questions, right? it is not schwarz and I can take $alpha,beta=0$ in schwarz definition.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:18







  • 1




    It is indeed not Schwarz, but the Schwarz definition must hold for all $alpha, beta$, not just one couple.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:20






  • 1




    Yeah, both being 0 is also included in the set of all $alpha, beta$ indeed.
    – Matrefeytontias
    Jul 25 at 0:22















(my derivative was wrong. fixed.)
– dude3221
Jul 25 at 0:10




(my derivative was wrong. fixed.)
– dude3221
Jul 25 at 0:10




1




1




One (necessary but not sufficient) condition for a function to be a Schwarz function is that $forall n in mathbb N, lim_x rightarrow infty x^n f(x) = 0$.
– Matrefeytontias
Jul 25 at 0:16




One (necessary but not sufficient) condition for a function to be a Schwarz function is that $forall n in mathbb N, lim_x rightarrow infty x^n f(x) = 0$.
– Matrefeytontias
Jul 25 at 0:16












this answers both of my questions, right? it is not schwarz and I can take $alpha,beta=0$ in schwarz definition.
– dude3221
Jul 25 at 0:18





this answers both of my questions, right? it is not schwarz and I can take $alpha,beta=0$ in schwarz definition.
– dude3221
Jul 25 at 0:18





1




1




It is indeed not Schwarz, but the Schwarz definition must hold for all $alpha, beta$, not just one couple.
– Matrefeytontias
Jul 25 at 0:20




It is indeed not Schwarz, but the Schwarz definition must hold for all $alpha, beta$, not just one couple.
– Matrefeytontias
Jul 25 at 0:20




1




1




Yeah, both being 0 is also included in the set of all $alpha, beta$ indeed.
– Matrefeytontias
Jul 25 at 0:22




Yeah, both being 0 is also included in the set of all $alpha, beta$ indeed.
– Matrefeytontias
Jul 25 at 0:22










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The Schwartz space on $mathbbR$ is the set of all smooth functions $f:mathbbRrightarrowmathbbR$ such that for all nonnegative integers $alpha$ and $beta$, the function $xmapsto x^alphaf^(beta)(x)$ is bounded.



Hint: In your case, take $alpha=3$ and $beta=0$ to get
$$
x^3f^(0)(x)=fracx^3x^2+a^2.
$$
What can you say about the above as $|x|rightarrow infty$?






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  • goes to $infty$ for $xto infty$ and to $-infty$ for $x to -infty$, then it´s not bounded.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:24










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The Schwartz space on $mathbbR$ is the set of all smooth functions $f:mathbbRrightarrowmathbbR$ such that for all nonnegative integers $alpha$ and $beta$, the function $xmapsto x^alphaf^(beta)(x)$ is bounded.



Hint: In your case, take $alpha=3$ and $beta=0$ to get
$$
x^3f^(0)(x)=fracx^3x^2+a^2.
$$
What can you say about the above as $|x|rightarrow infty$?






share|cite|improve this answer





















  • goes to $infty$ for $xto infty$ and to $-infty$ for $x to -infty$, then it´s not bounded.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:24














up vote
2
down vote



accepted










The Schwartz space on $mathbbR$ is the set of all smooth functions $f:mathbbRrightarrowmathbbR$ such that for all nonnegative integers $alpha$ and $beta$, the function $xmapsto x^alphaf^(beta)(x)$ is bounded.



Hint: In your case, take $alpha=3$ and $beta=0$ to get
$$
x^3f^(0)(x)=fracx^3x^2+a^2.
$$
What can you say about the above as $|x|rightarrow infty$?






share|cite|improve this answer





















  • goes to $infty$ for $xto infty$ and to $-infty$ for $x to -infty$, then it´s not bounded.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:24












up vote
2
down vote



accepted







up vote
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accepted






The Schwartz space on $mathbbR$ is the set of all smooth functions $f:mathbbRrightarrowmathbbR$ such that for all nonnegative integers $alpha$ and $beta$, the function $xmapsto x^alphaf^(beta)(x)$ is bounded.



Hint: In your case, take $alpha=3$ and $beta=0$ to get
$$
x^3f^(0)(x)=fracx^3x^2+a^2.
$$
What can you say about the above as $|x|rightarrow infty$?






share|cite|improve this answer













The Schwartz space on $mathbbR$ is the set of all smooth functions $f:mathbbRrightarrowmathbbR$ such that for all nonnegative integers $alpha$ and $beta$, the function $xmapsto x^alphaf^(beta)(x)$ is bounded.



Hint: In your case, take $alpha=3$ and $beta=0$ to get
$$
x^3f^(0)(x)=fracx^3x^2+a^2.
$$
What can you say about the above as $|x|rightarrow infty$?







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  • goes to $infty$ for $xto infty$ and to $-infty$ for $x to -infty$, then it´s not bounded.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:24
















  • goes to $infty$ for $xto infty$ and to $-infty$ for $x to -infty$, then it´s not bounded.
    – dude3221
    Jul 25 at 0:24















goes to $infty$ for $xto infty$ and to $-infty$ for $x to -infty$, then it´s not bounded.
– dude3221
Jul 25 at 0:24




goes to $infty$ for $xto infty$ and to $-infty$ for $x to -infty$, then it´s not bounded.
– dude3221
Jul 25 at 0:24












 

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