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My question is about angles in the circumference.
In the figure shown, the circumferences are exterior tangents. Being $C$, $A$ and $Q$ tangency points. If the measure of the $ABC$ arc is $290$. Find the excess of $120$ over $x$.
The truth does not find a way to solve it.
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My question is about angles in the circumference.
In the figure shown, the circumferences are exterior tangents. Being $C$, $A$ and $Q$ tangency points. If the measure of the $ABC$ arc is $290$. Find the excess of $120$ over $x$.
The truth does not find a way to solve it.
geometry circle tangent-line
closed as off-topic by Xander Henderson, Batominovski, amWhy, Isaac Browne, Leucippus Jul 31 at 3:49
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@DougM The point $B$ is probably just there so as to not confuse to which arc is being referred (the minor arc $AC$ or the major arc $AC$). So, with $B$, we know that $ABC$ is the major arc. What does "excess of $120$ over $x$" mean, though? Simply $120-x$?
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My question is about angles in the circumference.
In the figure shown, the circumferences are exterior tangents. Being $C$, $A$ and $Q$ tangency points. If the measure of the $ABC$ arc is $290$. Find the excess of $120$ over $x$.
The truth does not find a way to solve it.
geometry circle tangent-line
My question is about angles in the circumference.
In the figure shown, the circumferences are exterior tangents. Being $C$, $A$ and $Q$ tangency points. If the measure of the $ABC$ arc is $290$. Find the excess of $120$ over $x$.
The truth does not find a way to solve it.
geometry circle tangent-line
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closed as off-topic by Xander Henderson, Batominovski, amWhy, Isaac Browne, Leucippus Jul 31 at 3:49
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How is B defined?
– Doug M
Jul 30 at 22:02
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@DougM The point $B$ is probably just there so as to not confuse to which arc is being referred (the minor arc $AC$ or the major arc $AC$). So, with $B$, we know that $ABC$ is the major arc. What does "excess of $120$ over $x$" mean, though? Simply $120-x$?
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:06
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It would be helpful (and it is likely that your question would be better received) if you could provide some additional context. What have you tried to solve this problem? What tools (theorems, definitions, etc) do you have access to? Why are you interested in this problem? Why should anyone else be interested in this problem?
– Xander Henderson
Jul 30 at 22:01
How is B defined?
– Doug M
Jul 30 at 22:02
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@DougM The point $B$ is probably just there so as to not confuse to which arc is being referred (the minor arc $AC$ or the major arc $AC$). So, with $B$, we know that $ABC$ is the major arc. What does "excess of $120$ over $x$" mean, though? Simply $120-x$?
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:06
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– Xander Henderson
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It would be helpful (and it is likely that your question would be better received) if you could provide some additional context. What have you tried to solve this problem? What tools (theorems, definitions, etc) do you have access to? Why are you interested in this problem? Why should anyone else be interested in this problem?
– Xander Henderson
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How is B defined?
– Doug M
Jul 30 at 22:02
How is B defined?
– Doug M
Jul 30 at 22:02
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@DougM The point $B$ is probably just there so as to not confuse to which arc is being referred (the minor arc $AC$ or the major arc $AC$). So, with $B$, we know that $ABC$ is the major arc. What does "excess of $120$ over $x$" mean, though? Simply $120-x$?
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:06
@DougM The point $B$ is probably just there so as to not confuse to which arc is being referred (the minor arc $AC$ or the major arc $AC$). So, with $B$, we know that $ABC$ is the major arc. What does "excess of $120$ over $x$" mean, though? Simply $120-x$?
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Hint: We have $angle ABC=frac360^circ-290^circ2$ and $angle ABC=angle CAQ$. Plus, $angle CQA=angle APQ$. You can also show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$.
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I assume that $P$ is the antipodal point of $Q$ and $C$ is a point where the two circles are tangent to each other.
By the Tangent-Chord Theorem we have that $angle CAQ = angle CBA = 35^circ$
Finally as $triangle PQA$ is right triangle we get that $x = 55^circ$, so the excess is $65^circ$
Is it well known that $angle PQA=90^circ$? There is a short proof, but it is nontrivial enough. I find it easier to show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$ instead.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:18
@Batominovski Yeah, eventually it reduces to proving that $angle ACQ = 90$. Here's my proof: Let $A'$ be the intersection of $QC$ with the bigger circle. Then by power of point we have $AC cdot AP = AQ^2 = QC cdot QA'$. This gives that the triangles $AA'C$ and $PQC$ are similar and hence $angle A'AC = x$. Also $angle AA'C = angle CAQ$, so we get that $AA'C$ is similar with $PAQ$ and subsequentially with $ACQ$. So we have $angle ACQ = angle ACA'$ and as their sum is 180 we get what we want.
– Stefan4024
Jul 30 at 23:12
I have a homothetic proof without involving $angle ACQ$. The homothety about $C$ sending the circle $ABC$ to the circle $PQC$ with $A$ mapped to $P$ also send the tangent line $AQ$ of the circle $ABC$ to the tangent line of the circle $PQC$ at $P$. The two lines must be parallel, and since $AQ$ touches the circle $PQC$ at $Q$, we conclude that $PQ$ is a diameter of the circle $PQC$, whence it is perpendicular to $AQ$.
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Jul 30 at 23:15
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$〇+×ï¼Â90°$ and $ACQsim AQP$ make this problem easy.
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3 Answers
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Hint: We have $angle ABC=frac360^circ-290^circ2$ and $angle ABC=angle CAQ$. Plus, $angle CQA=angle APQ$. You can also show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$.
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Hint: We have $angle ABC=frac360^circ-290^circ2$ and $angle ABC=angle CAQ$. Plus, $angle CQA=angle APQ$. You can also show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$.
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Hint: We have $angle ABC=frac360^circ-290^circ2$ and $angle ABC=angle CAQ$. Plus, $angle CQA=angle APQ$. You can also show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$.
Hint: We have $angle ABC=frac360^circ-290^circ2$ and $angle ABC=angle CAQ$. Plus, $angle CQA=angle APQ$. You can also show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$.
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I assume that $P$ is the antipodal point of $Q$ and $C$ is a point where the two circles are tangent to each other.
By the Tangent-Chord Theorem we have that $angle CAQ = angle CBA = 35^circ$
Finally as $triangle PQA$ is right triangle we get that $x = 55^circ$, so the excess is $65^circ$
Is it well known that $angle PQA=90^circ$? There is a short proof, but it is nontrivial enough. I find it easier to show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$ instead.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:18
@Batominovski Yeah, eventually it reduces to proving that $angle ACQ = 90$. Here's my proof: Let $A'$ be the intersection of $QC$ with the bigger circle. Then by power of point we have $AC cdot AP = AQ^2 = QC cdot QA'$. This gives that the triangles $AA'C$ and $PQC$ are similar and hence $angle A'AC = x$. Also $angle AA'C = angle CAQ$, so we get that $AA'C$ is similar with $PAQ$ and subsequentially with $ACQ$. So we have $angle ACQ = angle ACA'$ and as their sum is 180 we get what we want.
– Stefan4024
Jul 30 at 23:12
I have a homothetic proof without involving $angle ACQ$. The homothety about $C$ sending the circle $ABC$ to the circle $PQC$ with $A$ mapped to $P$ also send the tangent line $AQ$ of the circle $ABC$ to the tangent line of the circle $PQC$ at $P$. The two lines must be parallel, and since $AQ$ touches the circle $PQC$ at $Q$, we conclude that $PQ$ is a diameter of the circle $PQC$, whence it is perpendicular to $AQ$.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 23:15
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I assume that $P$ is the antipodal point of $Q$ and $C$ is a point where the two circles are tangent to each other.
By the Tangent-Chord Theorem we have that $angle CAQ = angle CBA = 35^circ$
Finally as $triangle PQA$ is right triangle we get that $x = 55^circ$, so the excess is $65^circ$
Is it well known that $angle PQA=90^circ$? There is a short proof, but it is nontrivial enough. I find it easier to show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$ instead.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:18
@Batominovski Yeah, eventually it reduces to proving that $angle ACQ = 90$. Here's my proof: Let $A'$ be the intersection of $QC$ with the bigger circle. Then by power of point we have $AC cdot AP = AQ^2 = QC cdot QA'$. This gives that the triangles $AA'C$ and $PQC$ are similar and hence $angle A'AC = x$. Also $angle AA'C = angle CAQ$, so we get that $AA'C$ is similar with $PAQ$ and subsequentially with $ACQ$. So we have $angle ACQ = angle ACA'$ and as their sum is 180 we get what we want.
– Stefan4024
Jul 30 at 23:12
I have a homothetic proof without involving $angle ACQ$. The homothety about $C$ sending the circle $ABC$ to the circle $PQC$ with $A$ mapped to $P$ also send the tangent line $AQ$ of the circle $ABC$ to the tangent line of the circle $PQC$ at $P$. The two lines must be parallel, and since $AQ$ touches the circle $PQC$ at $Q$, we conclude that $PQ$ is a diameter of the circle $PQC$, whence it is perpendicular to $AQ$.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 23:15
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I assume that $P$ is the antipodal point of $Q$ and $C$ is a point where the two circles are tangent to each other.
By the Tangent-Chord Theorem we have that $angle CAQ = angle CBA = 35^circ$
Finally as $triangle PQA$ is right triangle we get that $x = 55^circ$, so the excess is $65^circ$
I assume that $P$ is the antipodal point of $Q$ and $C$ is a point where the two circles are tangent to each other.
By the Tangent-Chord Theorem we have that $angle CAQ = angle CBA = 35^circ$
Finally as $triangle PQA$ is right triangle we get that $x = 55^circ$, so the excess is $65^circ$
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Is it well known that $angle PQA=90^circ$? There is a short proof, but it is nontrivial enough. I find it easier to show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$ instead.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:18
@Batominovski Yeah, eventually it reduces to proving that $angle ACQ = 90$. Here's my proof: Let $A'$ be the intersection of $QC$ with the bigger circle. Then by power of point we have $AC cdot AP = AQ^2 = QC cdot QA'$. This gives that the triangles $AA'C$ and $PQC$ are similar and hence $angle A'AC = x$. Also $angle AA'C = angle CAQ$, so we get that $AA'C$ is similar with $PAQ$ and subsequentially with $ACQ$. So we have $angle ACQ = angle ACA'$ and as their sum is 180 we get what we want.
– Stefan4024
Jul 30 at 23:12
I have a homothetic proof without involving $angle ACQ$. The homothety about $C$ sending the circle $ABC$ to the circle $PQC$ with $A$ mapped to $P$ also send the tangent line $AQ$ of the circle $ABC$ to the tangent line of the circle $PQC$ at $P$. The two lines must be parallel, and since $AQ$ touches the circle $PQC$ at $Q$, we conclude that $PQ$ is a diameter of the circle $PQC$, whence it is perpendicular to $AQ$.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 23:15
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Is it well known that $angle PQA=90^circ$? There is a short proof, but it is nontrivial enough. I find it easier to show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$ instead.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:18
@Batominovski Yeah, eventually it reduces to proving that $angle ACQ = 90$. Here's my proof: Let $A'$ be the intersection of $QC$ with the bigger circle. Then by power of point we have $AC cdot AP = AQ^2 = QC cdot QA'$. This gives that the triangles $AA'C$ and $PQC$ are similar and hence $angle A'AC = x$. Also $angle AA'C = angle CAQ$, so we get that $AA'C$ is similar with $PAQ$ and subsequentially with $ACQ$. So we have $angle ACQ = angle ACA'$ and as their sum is 180 we get what we want.
– Stefan4024
Jul 30 at 23:12
I have a homothetic proof without involving $angle ACQ$. The homothety about $C$ sending the circle $ABC$ to the circle $PQC$ with $A$ mapped to $P$ also send the tangent line $AQ$ of the circle $ABC$ to the tangent line of the circle $PQC$ at $P$. The two lines must be parallel, and since $AQ$ touches the circle $PQC$ at $Q$, we conclude that $PQ$ is a diameter of the circle $PQC$, whence it is perpendicular to $AQ$.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 23:15
Is it well known that $angle PQA=90^circ$? There is a short proof, but it is nontrivial enough. I find it easier to show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$ instead.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:18
Is it well known that $angle PQA=90^circ$? There is a short proof, but it is nontrivial enough. I find it easier to show that $angle ACQ=90^circ$ instead.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:18
@Batominovski Yeah, eventually it reduces to proving that $angle ACQ = 90$. Here's my proof: Let $A'$ be the intersection of $QC$ with the bigger circle. Then by power of point we have $AC cdot AP = AQ^2 = QC cdot QA'$. This gives that the triangles $AA'C$ and $PQC$ are similar and hence $angle A'AC = x$. Also $angle AA'C = angle CAQ$, so we get that $AA'C$ is similar with $PAQ$ and subsequentially with $ACQ$. So we have $angle ACQ = angle ACA'$ and as their sum is 180 we get what we want.
– Stefan4024
Jul 30 at 23:12
@Batominovski Yeah, eventually it reduces to proving that $angle ACQ = 90$. Here's my proof: Let $A'$ be the intersection of $QC$ with the bigger circle. Then by power of point we have $AC cdot AP = AQ^2 = QC cdot QA'$. This gives that the triangles $AA'C$ and $PQC$ are similar and hence $angle A'AC = x$. Also $angle AA'C = angle CAQ$, so we get that $AA'C$ is similar with $PAQ$ and subsequentially with $ACQ$. So we have $angle ACQ = angle ACA'$ and as their sum is 180 we get what we want.
– Stefan4024
Jul 30 at 23:12
I have a homothetic proof without involving $angle ACQ$. The homothety about $C$ sending the circle $ABC$ to the circle $PQC$ with $A$ mapped to $P$ also send the tangent line $AQ$ of the circle $ABC$ to the tangent line of the circle $PQC$ at $P$. The two lines must be parallel, and since $AQ$ touches the circle $PQC$ at $Q$, we conclude that $PQ$ is a diameter of the circle $PQC$, whence it is perpendicular to $AQ$.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 23:15
I have a homothetic proof without involving $angle ACQ$. The homothety about $C$ sending the circle $ABC$ to the circle $PQC$ with $A$ mapped to $P$ also send the tangent line $AQ$ of the circle $ABC$ to the tangent line of the circle $PQC$ at $P$. The two lines must be parallel, and since $AQ$ touches the circle $PQC$ at $Q$, we conclude that $PQ$ is a diameter of the circle $PQC$, whence it is perpendicular to $AQ$.
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 23:15
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$〇+×ï¼Â90°$ and $ACQsim AQP$ make this problem easy.
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$〇+×ï¼Â90°$ and $ACQsim AQP$ make this problem easy.
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$〇+×ï¼Â90°$ and $ACQsim AQP$ make this problem easy.
$〇+×ï¼Â90°$ and $ACQsim AQP$ make this problem easy.
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It would be helpful (and it is likely that your question would be better received) if you could provide some additional context. What have you tried to solve this problem? What tools (theorems, definitions, etc) do you have access to? Why are you interested in this problem? Why should anyone else be interested in this problem?
– Xander Henderson
Jul 30 at 22:01
How is B defined?
– Doug M
Jul 30 at 22:02
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@DougM The point $B$ is probably just there so as to not confuse to which arc is being referred (the minor arc $AC$ or the major arc $AC$). So, with $B$, we know that $ABC$ is the major arc. What does "excess of $120$ over $x$" mean, though? Simply $120-x$?
– Batominovski
Jul 30 at 22:06