If $F:Vto W$ is a continuous isomorphism, is it a homeomorphism?

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If $F:Vto W$ is a continuous isomorphism of vector spaces, is it a homeomorphism ?



  • I tried to prove that $F(U)$ is open when $U$ is open : Let $xin F(U)$, then $x=f(t)$ for a $tin U$. Since $U$ is open, there is a neighborhood $mathcal V(t)subset U$. I guess that $F(mathcal V(t))$ is an open include in $F(U)$ but I can't prove it.


  • If it's wrong, is the claim true if $V$ and $W$ are supposed to be norm space ? I tried to prove that $F^-1$ is continuous at $0$ : Suppose it's not. Then, there is a sequence $(x_n)$ of $V$ that converge to $0$ s.t. $$lim_nto infty F^-1(x_n)neq 0.$$
    Let $y_n$ s.t. $x_n=F(y_n)$ (the sequence $(y_n)$ exist and is unique by bijectivity). We have that $lim_nto infty F(y_n)=0$.


Either $(y_n)$ is bounded, and there is a subsequence (still denoted $(y_n)$) that converge (to $ell$) and thus by continuity $F(ell)=0implies ell=0$ (because bijective) and thus it's a contradiction. Either it's unbounded, and thus I don't know.



  • By the way, how would look a linear application that is not continuous (on $mathbb Rto mathbb R$ for example).






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    What are $V$ and $W$? What kind of isomorphism is $F$? "Isomorphism" is very unspecific.
    – M. Winter
    Jul 24 at 13:46










  • @M.Winter: vector spaces.
    – user352653
    Jul 24 at 13:52










  • Do you assume that $V$ and $W$ are finite dimensional?
    – M. Winter
    Jul 24 at 13:54










  • @M.Winter: I don't. But let's say they are.
    – user352653
    Jul 24 at 13:56






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    If they are infinite-dimensional and Banach spaces, then the answer is yes by the open mapping theorem. In particular, the answer is yes in the finite-dimensinal case.
    – noctusraid
    Jul 24 at 13:58














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If $F:Vto W$ is a continuous isomorphism of vector spaces, is it a homeomorphism ?



  • I tried to prove that $F(U)$ is open when $U$ is open : Let $xin F(U)$, then $x=f(t)$ for a $tin U$. Since $U$ is open, there is a neighborhood $mathcal V(t)subset U$. I guess that $F(mathcal V(t))$ is an open include in $F(U)$ but I can't prove it.


  • If it's wrong, is the claim true if $V$ and $W$ are supposed to be norm space ? I tried to prove that $F^-1$ is continuous at $0$ : Suppose it's not. Then, there is a sequence $(x_n)$ of $V$ that converge to $0$ s.t. $$lim_nto infty F^-1(x_n)neq 0.$$
    Let $y_n$ s.t. $x_n=F(y_n)$ (the sequence $(y_n)$ exist and is unique by bijectivity). We have that $lim_nto infty F(y_n)=0$.


Either $(y_n)$ is bounded, and there is a subsequence (still denoted $(y_n)$) that converge (to $ell$) and thus by continuity $F(ell)=0implies ell=0$ (because bijective) and thus it's a contradiction. Either it's unbounded, and thus I don't know.



  • By the way, how would look a linear application that is not continuous (on $mathbb Rto mathbb R$ for example).






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    What are $V$ and $W$? What kind of isomorphism is $F$? "Isomorphism" is very unspecific.
    – M. Winter
    Jul 24 at 13:46










  • @M.Winter: vector spaces.
    – user352653
    Jul 24 at 13:52










  • Do you assume that $V$ and $W$ are finite dimensional?
    – M. Winter
    Jul 24 at 13:54










  • @M.Winter: I don't. But let's say they are.
    – user352653
    Jul 24 at 13:56






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    If they are infinite-dimensional and Banach spaces, then the answer is yes by the open mapping theorem. In particular, the answer is yes in the finite-dimensinal case.
    – noctusraid
    Jul 24 at 13:58












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If $F:Vto W$ is a continuous isomorphism of vector spaces, is it a homeomorphism ?



  • I tried to prove that $F(U)$ is open when $U$ is open : Let $xin F(U)$, then $x=f(t)$ for a $tin U$. Since $U$ is open, there is a neighborhood $mathcal V(t)subset U$. I guess that $F(mathcal V(t))$ is an open include in $F(U)$ but I can't prove it.


  • If it's wrong, is the claim true if $V$ and $W$ are supposed to be norm space ? I tried to prove that $F^-1$ is continuous at $0$ : Suppose it's not. Then, there is a sequence $(x_n)$ of $V$ that converge to $0$ s.t. $$lim_nto infty F^-1(x_n)neq 0.$$
    Let $y_n$ s.t. $x_n=F(y_n)$ (the sequence $(y_n)$ exist and is unique by bijectivity). We have that $lim_nto infty F(y_n)=0$.


Either $(y_n)$ is bounded, and there is a subsequence (still denoted $(y_n)$) that converge (to $ell$) and thus by continuity $F(ell)=0implies ell=0$ (because bijective) and thus it's a contradiction. Either it's unbounded, and thus I don't know.



  • By the way, how would look a linear application that is not continuous (on $mathbb Rto mathbb R$ for example).






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If $F:Vto W$ is a continuous isomorphism of vector spaces, is it a homeomorphism ?



  • I tried to prove that $F(U)$ is open when $U$ is open : Let $xin F(U)$, then $x=f(t)$ for a $tin U$. Since $U$ is open, there is a neighborhood $mathcal V(t)subset U$. I guess that $F(mathcal V(t))$ is an open include in $F(U)$ but I can't prove it.


  • If it's wrong, is the claim true if $V$ and $W$ are supposed to be norm space ? I tried to prove that $F^-1$ is continuous at $0$ : Suppose it's not. Then, there is a sequence $(x_n)$ of $V$ that converge to $0$ s.t. $$lim_nto infty F^-1(x_n)neq 0.$$
    Let $y_n$ s.t. $x_n=F(y_n)$ (the sequence $(y_n)$ exist and is unique by bijectivity). We have that $lim_nto infty F(y_n)=0$.


Either $(y_n)$ is bounded, and there is a subsequence (still denoted $(y_n)$) that converge (to $ell$) and thus by continuity $F(ell)=0implies ell=0$ (because bijective) and thus it's a contradiction. Either it's unbounded, and thus I don't know.



  • By the way, how would look a linear application that is not continuous (on $mathbb Rto mathbb R$ for example).








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    What are $V$ and $W$? What kind of isomorphism is $F$? "Isomorphism" is very unspecific.
    – M. Winter
    Jul 24 at 13:46










  • @M.Winter: vector spaces.
    – user352653
    Jul 24 at 13:52










  • Do you assume that $V$ and $W$ are finite dimensional?
    – M. Winter
    Jul 24 at 13:54










  • @M.Winter: I don't. But let's say they are.
    – user352653
    Jul 24 at 13:56






  • 1




    If they are infinite-dimensional and Banach spaces, then the answer is yes by the open mapping theorem. In particular, the answer is yes in the finite-dimensinal case.
    – noctusraid
    Jul 24 at 13:58












  • 2




    What are $V$ and $W$? What kind of isomorphism is $F$? "Isomorphism" is very unspecific.
    – M. Winter
    Jul 24 at 13:46










  • @M.Winter: vector spaces.
    – user352653
    Jul 24 at 13:52










  • Do you assume that $V$ and $W$ are finite dimensional?
    – M. Winter
    Jul 24 at 13:54










  • @M.Winter: I don't. But let's say they are.
    – user352653
    Jul 24 at 13:56






  • 1




    If they are infinite-dimensional and Banach spaces, then the answer is yes by the open mapping theorem. In particular, the answer is yes in the finite-dimensinal case.
    – noctusraid
    Jul 24 at 13:58







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What are $V$ and $W$? What kind of isomorphism is $F$? "Isomorphism" is very unspecific.
– M. Winter
Jul 24 at 13:46




What are $V$ and $W$? What kind of isomorphism is $F$? "Isomorphism" is very unspecific.
– M. Winter
Jul 24 at 13:46












@M.Winter: vector spaces.
– user352653
Jul 24 at 13:52




@M.Winter: vector spaces.
– user352653
Jul 24 at 13:52












Do you assume that $V$ and $W$ are finite dimensional?
– M. Winter
Jul 24 at 13:54




Do you assume that $V$ and $W$ are finite dimensional?
– M. Winter
Jul 24 at 13:54












@M.Winter: I don't. But let's say they are.
– user352653
Jul 24 at 13:56




@M.Winter: I don't. But let's say they are.
– user352653
Jul 24 at 13:56




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If they are infinite-dimensional and Banach spaces, then the answer is yes by the open mapping theorem. In particular, the answer is yes in the finite-dimensinal case.
– noctusraid
Jul 24 at 13:58




If they are infinite-dimensional and Banach spaces, then the answer is yes by the open mapping theorem. In particular, the answer is yes in the finite-dimensinal case.
– noctusraid
Jul 24 at 13:58










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If $V, W$ are Banach spaces, than thanks to the open mapping theorem, a linear continuous surjective map between them is open; so, if it is also injective, it is an omeomorphism. Actually I don't know if this results holds in general for topological vector spaces that are not Banach, but in the proof of the Theorem the completeness is strongly used, so I think the answer is negative.






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    If $V, W$ are Banach spaces, than thanks to the open mapping theorem, a linear continuous surjective map between them is open; so, if it is also injective, it is an omeomorphism. Actually I don't know if this results holds in general for topological vector spaces that are not Banach, but in the proof of the Theorem the completeness is strongly used, so I think the answer is negative.






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      If $V, W$ are Banach spaces, than thanks to the open mapping theorem, a linear continuous surjective map between them is open; so, if it is also injective, it is an omeomorphism. Actually I don't know if this results holds in general for topological vector spaces that are not Banach, but in the proof of the Theorem the completeness is strongly used, so I think the answer is negative.






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        If $V, W$ are Banach spaces, than thanks to the open mapping theorem, a linear continuous surjective map between them is open; so, if it is also injective, it is an omeomorphism. Actually I don't know if this results holds in general for topological vector spaces that are not Banach, but in the proof of the Theorem the completeness is strongly used, so I think the answer is negative.






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        If $V, W$ are Banach spaces, than thanks to the open mapping theorem, a linear continuous surjective map between them is open; so, if it is also injective, it is an omeomorphism. Actually I don't know if this results holds in general for topological vector spaces that are not Banach, but in the proof of the Theorem the completeness is strongly used, so I think the answer is negative.







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