Normal bundle to a section of $mathcalProj$ of a rank 2 vector bundle

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I am stuck at solving 20.2.I from Vakil's notes.



The set up is as follows: suppose $X$ is a scheme, $mathcalV$ is a rank 2 locally free sheaf.



Then given a short exact sequence $$0 to mathcalS to mathcalV to mathcalQ to 0 $$ with $mathcalS, mathcalQ$ being invertible sheaves, we obtain a section $$sigma: X cong mathbbP(mathcalQ) to mathbbP(mathcalV)$$ by projectivizing the sequence.



Remark. Vakil''s convention for projectivization is $$mathbbP(mathcalV) = mathcalProj (Sym^bullet mathcalV)$$ without taking the dual (17.2.3).



The task is to show that the normal bundle $mathcalN_sigma(X)/mathbbP(mathcalV)$ is isomorphic to $mathcalQ otimes mathcalS^vee$.



Following the hint, we can assume $mathcalS cong mathcalO_X$.



To get a trivialization for $mathcalN_sigma(X)/mathbbP(mathcalV)$, take set $U subset X$ where $mathcalQ$ is trivial. Then the exact sequence splits $$0 to mathcalO_U to mathcalO_U^oplus 2 to mathcalO_U to 0,$$where the last map is just the projection onto the second factor and the section thus identifies with $$U to U times mathbbP^1$$ $$p mapsto (p,[0,1]).$$



We see that therefore the image is the locus $V(x_0)$ with $x_0 in Gamma(U, mathcalO_U times mathbbP^1(1))$. Moreover the section factors through $U times U_1$ ($U_1$ being the standard chart for projective line), and we can identify the conormal ideal as $$fracx_0/1mathcalO_U[x_0/1]x_0/1^2mathcalO_U[x_0/1] cong mathcalO_U.$$



The last step in the hint is to take trivializing cover $U_i$ for $mathcalQ$ with cocycle $g_ij$ and show that it also serves as a cocylce for the normal bundle.



beginarray
00 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0\
& & uparrowid && uparrow && uparrow\
0 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalV|_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalQ|_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0\
& & downarrowid && downarrow && downarrow\
0 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0.
endarray



The outer right square is
beginarray
mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij \
uparrow_beginbmatrix 1 & a_ij \ 0 & g_ij endbmatrix && uparrowg_ij \
mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij
endarray



So it seems like when I take the corresponding projectivization



beginarray
UU_ij times mathbbP^1 & stackrellongleftarrow & X \
downarrow && downarrowid \
U_ij times mathbbP^1 & stackrellongleftarrow & X
endarray
section $x_0 in Gamma(U_ij times mathbbP^1, mathcalO_U_ij times mathbbP^1(1))$ downstairs pulls back to $x_0$ upstairs again, thus not producing interesting cocycle in the trivialization for the normal bundle. (And as far as I can tell, in order to get the correct cocylcle, we need $x_0$ to pullback to $g_ij^-1 x_0$.)



Can someone point to a mistake in the argument above?







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    I am stuck at solving 20.2.I from Vakil's notes.



    The set up is as follows: suppose $X$ is a scheme, $mathcalV$ is a rank 2 locally free sheaf.



    Then given a short exact sequence $$0 to mathcalS to mathcalV to mathcalQ to 0 $$ with $mathcalS, mathcalQ$ being invertible sheaves, we obtain a section $$sigma: X cong mathbbP(mathcalQ) to mathbbP(mathcalV)$$ by projectivizing the sequence.



    Remark. Vakil''s convention for projectivization is $$mathbbP(mathcalV) = mathcalProj (Sym^bullet mathcalV)$$ without taking the dual (17.2.3).



    The task is to show that the normal bundle $mathcalN_sigma(X)/mathbbP(mathcalV)$ is isomorphic to $mathcalQ otimes mathcalS^vee$.



    Following the hint, we can assume $mathcalS cong mathcalO_X$.



    To get a trivialization for $mathcalN_sigma(X)/mathbbP(mathcalV)$, take set $U subset X$ where $mathcalQ$ is trivial. Then the exact sequence splits $$0 to mathcalO_U to mathcalO_U^oplus 2 to mathcalO_U to 0,$$where the last map is just the projection onto the second factor and the section thus identifies with $$U to U times mathbbP^1$$ $$p mapsto (p,[0,1]).$$



    We see that therefore the image is the locus $V(x_0)$ with $x_0 in Gamma(U, mathcalO_U times mathbbP^1(1))$. Moreover the section factors through $U times U_1$ ($U_1$ being the standard chart for projective line), and we can identify the conormal ideal as $$fracx_0/1mathcalO_U[x_0/1]x_0/1^2mathcalO_U[x_0/1] cong mathcalO_U.$$



    The last step in the hint is to take trivializing cover $U_i$ for $mathcalQ$ with cocycle $g_ij$ and show that it also serves as a cocylce for the normal bundle.



    beginarray
    00 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0\
    & & uparrowid && uparrow && uparrow\
    0 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalV|_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalQ|_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0\
    & & downarrowid && downarrow && downarrow\
    0 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0.
    endarray



    The outer right square is
    beginarray
    mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij \
    uparrow_beginbmatrix 1 & a_ij \ 0 & g_ij endbmatrix && uparrowg_ij \
    mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij
    endarray



    So it seems like when I take the corresponding projectivization



    beginarray
    UU_ij times mathbbP^1 & stackrellongleftarrow & X \
    downarrow && downarrowid \
    U_ij times mathbbP^1 & stackrellongleftarrow & X
    endarray
    section $x_0 in Gamma(U_ij times mathbbP^1, mathcalO_U_ij times mathbbP^1(1))$ downstairs pulls back to $x_0$ upstairs again, thus not producing interesting cocycle in the trivialization for the normal bundle. (And as far as I can tell, in order to get the correct cocylcle, we need $x_0$ to pullback to $g_ij^-1 x_0$.)



    Can someone point to a mistake in the argument above?







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      I am stuck at solving 20.2.I from Vakil's notes.



      The set up is as follows: suppose $X$ is a scheme, $mathcalV$ is a rank 2 locally free sheaf.



      Then given a short exact sequence $$0 to mathcalS to mathcalV to mathcalQ to 0 $$ with $mathcalS, mathcalQ$ being invertible sheaves, we obtain a section $$sigma: X cong mathbbP(mathcalQ) to mathbbP(mathcalV)$$ by projectivizing the sequence.



      Remark. Vakil''s convention for projectivization is $$mathbbP(mathcalV) = mathcalProj (Sym^bullet mathcalV)$$ without taking the dual (17.2.3).



      The task is to show that the normal bundle $mathcalN_sigma(X)/mathbbP(mathcalV)$ is isomorphic to $mathcalQ otimes mathcalS^vee$.



      Following the hint, we can assume $mathcalS cong mathcalO_X$.



      To get a trivialization for $mathcalN_sigma(X)/mathbbP(mathcalV)$, take set $U subset X$ where $mathcalQ$ is trivial. Then the exact sequence splits $$0 to mathcalO_U to mathcalO_U^oplus 2 to mathcalO_U to 0,$$where the last map is just the projection onto the second factor and the section thus identifies with $$U to U times mathbbP^1$$ $$p mapsto (p,[0,1]).$$



      We see that therefore the image is the locus $V(x_0)$ with $x_0 in Gamma(U, mathcalO_U times mathbbP^1(1))$. Moreover the section factors through $U times U_1$ ($U_1$ being the standard chart for projective line), and we can identify the conormal ideal as $$fracx_0/1mathcalO_U[x_0/1]x_0/1^2mathcalO_U[x_0/1] cong mathcalO_U.$$



      The last step in the hint is to take trivializing cover $U_i$ for $mathcalQ$ with cocycle $g_ij$ and show that it also serves as a cocylce for the normal bundle.



      beginarray
      00 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0\
      & & uparrowid && uparrow && uparrow\
      0 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalV|_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalQ|_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0\
      & & downarrowid && downarrow && downarrow\
      0 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0.
      endarray



      The outer right square is
      beginarray
      mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij \
      uparrow_beginbmatrix 1 & a_ij \ 0 & g_ij endbmatrix && uparrowg_ij \
      mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij
      endarray



      So it seems like when I take the corresponding projectivization



      beginarray
      UU_ij times mathbbP^1 & stackrellongleftarrow & X \
      downarrow && downarrowid \
      U_ij times mathbbP^1 & stackrellongleftarrow & X
      endarray
      section $x_0 in Gamma(U_ij times mathbbP^1, mathcalO_U_ij times mathbbP^1(1))$ downstairs pulls back to $x_0$ upstairs again, thus not producing interesting cocycle in the trivialization for the normal bundle. (And as far as I can tell, in order to get the correct cocylcle, we need $x_0$ to pullback to $g_ij^-1 x_0$.)



      Can someone point to a mistake in the argument above?







      share|cite|improve this question













      I am stuck at solving 20.2.I from Vakil's notes.



      The set up is as follows: suppose $X$ is a scheme, $mathcalV$ is a rank 2 locally free sheaf.



      Then given a short exact sequence $$0 to mathcalS to mathcalV to mathcalQ to 0 $$ with $mathcalS, mathcalQ$ being invertible sheaves, we obtain a section $$sigma: X cong mathbbP(mathcalQ) to mathbbP(mathcalV)$$ by projectivizing the sequence.



      Remark. Vakil''s convention for projectivization is $$mathbbP(mathcalV) = mathcalProj (Sym^bullet mathcalV)$$ without taking the dual (17.2.3).



      The task is to show that the normal bundle $mathcalN_sigma(X)/mathbbP(mathcalV)$ is isomorphic to $mathcalQ otimes mathcalS^vee$.



      Following the hint, we can assume $mathcalS cong mathcalO_X$.



      To get a trivialization for $mathcalN_sigma(X)/mathbbP(mathcalV)$, take set $U subset X$ where $mathcalQ$ is trivial. Then the exact sequence splits $$0 to mathcalO_U to mathcalO_U^oplus 2 to mathcalO_U to 0,$$where the last map is just the projection onto the second factor and the section thus identifies with $$U to U times mathbbP^1$$ $$p mapsto (p,[0,1]).$$



      We see that therefore the image is the locus $V(x_0)$ with $x_0 in Gamma(U, mathcalO_U times mathbbP^1(1))$. Moreover the section factors through $U times U_1$ ($U_1$ being the standard chart for projective line), and we can identify the conormal ideal as $$fracx_0/1mathcalO_U[x_0/1]x_0/1^2mathcalO_U[x_0/1] cong mathcalO_U.$$



      The last step in the hint is to take trivializing cover $U_i$ for $mathcalQ$ with cocycle $g_ij$ and show that it also serves as a cocylce for the normal bundle.



      beginarray
      00 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0\
      & & uparrowid && uparrow && uparrow\
      0 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalV|_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalQ|_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0\
      & & downarrowid && downarrow && downarrow\
      0 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij & stackrellongrightarrow 0.
      endarray



      The outer right square is
      beginarray
      mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij \
      uparrow_beginbmatrix 1 & a_ij \ 0 & g_ij endbmatrix && uparrowg_ij \
      mathcalO_U_ij^oplus 2 & stackrellongrightarrow & mathcalO_U_ij
      endarray



      So it seems like when I take the corresponding projectivization



      beginarray
      UU_ij times mathbbP^1 & stackrellongleftarrow & X \
      downarrow && downarrowid \
      U_ij times mathbbP^1 & stackrellongleftarrow & X
      endarray
      section $x_0 in Gamma(U_ij times mathbbP^1, mathcalO_U_ij times mathbbP^1(1))$ downstairs pulls back to $x_0$ upstairs again, thus not producing interesting cocycle in the trivialization for the normal bundle. (And as far as I can tell, in order to get the correct cocylcle, we need $x_0$ to pullback to $g_ij^-1 x_0$.)



      Can someone point to a mistake in the argument above?









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          Typically, this is done much more directly as follows. If we have a non-zero section $mathcalO_Xto V$, this gives a non-zero section of $mathcalO_P(V)(1)$, using the surjection $pi^*VtomathcalO_P(V)(1)$, where $pi:P(V)to X$ is the natural projection. If $Ysubset P(V)$ is the divisor where this section vanishes, it is clear that $N_Y/P(V)=mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y$. In your case, chasing diagrams, it is immediate that $mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y=pi^*Q|Y$, where you have started with $0tomathcalO_Xto Vto Qto 0$.






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          • Thank you, Mohan, for your reply. I think I've seen you suggesting a similar way in another thread and it indeed gives a slick solution. However, I thought that would still be beneficial to understand the nitty-gritty details, hidden in the machinery, following Vakil's hint.
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          Typically, this is done much more directly as follows. If we have a non-zero section $mathcalO_Xto V$, this gives a non-zero section of $mathcalO_P(V)(1)$, using the surjection $pi^*VtomathcalO_P(V)(1)$, where $pi:P(V)to X$ is the natural projection. If $Ysubset P(V)$ is the divisor where this section vanishes, it is clear that $N_Y/P(V)=mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y$. In your case, chasing diagrams, it is immediate that $mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y=pi^*Q|Y$, where you have started with $0tomathcalO_Xto Vto Qto 0$.






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          • Thank you, Mohan, for your reply. I think I've seen you suggesting a similar way in another thread and it indeed gives a slick solution. However, I thought that would still be beneficial to understand the nitty-gritty details, hidden in the machinery, following Vakil's hint.
            – Bananeen
            Jul 19 at 16:53















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          Typically, this is done much more directly as follows. If we have a non-zero section $mathcalO_Xto V$, this gives a non-zero section of $mathcalO_P(V)(1)$, using the surjection $pi^*VtomathcalO_P(V)(1)$, where $pi:P(V)to X$ is the natural projection. If $Ysubset P(V)$ is the divisor where this section vanishes, it is clear that $N_Y/P(V)=mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y$. In your case, chasing diagrams, it is immediate that $mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y=pi^*Q|Y$, where you have started with $0tomathcalO_Xto Vto Qto 0$.






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          • Thank you, Mohan, for your reply. I think I've seen you suggesting a similar way in another thread and it indeed gives a slick solution. However, I thought that would still be beneficial to understand the nitty-gritty details, hidden in the machinery, following Vakil's hint.
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            Jul 19 at 16:53













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          Typically, this is done much more directly as follows. If we have a non-zero section $mathcalO_Xto V$, this gives a non-zero section of $mathcalO_P(V)(1)$, using the surjection $pi^*VtomathcalO_P(V)(1)$, where $pi:P(V)to X$ is the natural projection. If $Ysubset P(V)$ is the divisor where this section vanishes, it is clear that $N_Y/P(V)=mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y$. In your case, chasing diagrams, it is immediate that $mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y=pi^*Q|Y$, where you have started with $0tomathcalO_Xto Vto Qto 0$.






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          Typically, this is done much more directly as follows. If we have a non-zero section $mathcalO_Xto V$, this gives a non-zero section of $mathcalO_P(V)(1)$, using the surjection $pi^*VtomathcalO_P(V)(1)$, where $pi:P(V)to X$ is the natural projection. If $Ysubset P(V)$ is the divisor where this section vanishes, it is clear that $N_Y/P(V)=mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y$. In your case, chasing diagrams, it is immediate that $mathcalO_P(V)(1)|Y=pi^*Q|Y$, where you have started with $0tomathcalO_Xto Vto Qto 0$.







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          • Thank you, Mohan, for your reply. I think I've seen you suggesting a similar way in another thread and it indeed gives a slick solution. However, I thought that would still be beneficial to understand the nitty-gritty details, hidden in the machinery, following Vakil's hint.
            – Bananeen
            Jul 19 at 16:53

















          • Thank you, Mohan, for your reply. I think I've seen you suggesting a similar way in another thread and it indeed gives a slick solution. However, I thought that would still be beneficial to understand the nitty-gritty details, hidden in the machinery, following Vakil's hint.
            – Bananeen
            Jul 19 at 16:53
















          Thank you, Mohan, for your reply. I think I've seen you suggesting a similar way in another thread and it indeed gives a slick solution. However, I thought that would still be beneficial to understand the nitty-gritty details, hidden in the machinery, following Vakil's hint.
          – Bananeen
          Jul 19 at 16:53





          Thank you, Mohan, for your reply. I think I've seen you suggesting a similar way in another thread and it indeed gives a slick solution. However, I thought that would still be beneficial to understand the nitty-gritty details, hidden in the machinery, following Vakil's hint.
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