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$$beginarrayll textmaximize & displaystyleprod_i=1^r P_i\ textsubject to & x_1 + x_2 + dots + x_n = 1\ & x_1, x_2, dots, x_n geq 0endarray$$



where each $P_i$ is a sum of some $x_k$'s. Is it true that we can always choose all $x_i$'s to be rational so as to maximize this expression?



(It is not true that the $x_i$'s must always be rational. For example, if $n=2$ and the expression is just $x_1+x_2$, then we can choose $x_1=a$ and $x_2=1-a$ for any $a$. But we can also choose $a$ to be rational.)



Also, is it true that each $P_i$ will be at least $frac 1r$ at the optimum?







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    $$beginarrayll textmaximize & displaystyleprod_i=1^r P_i\ textsubject to & x_1 + x_2 + dots + x_n = 1\ & x_1, x_2, dots, x_n geq 0endarray$$



    where each $P_i$ is a sum of some $x_k$'s. Is it true that we can always choose all $x_i$'s to be rational so as to maximize this expression?



    (It is not true that the $x_i$'s must always be rational. For example, if $n=2$ and the expression is just $x_1+x_2$, then we can choose $x_1=a$ and $x_2=1-a$ for any $a$. But we can also choose $a$ to be rational.)



    Also, is it true that each $P_i$ will be at least $frac 1r$ at the optimum?







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      $$beginarrayll textmaximize & displaystyleprod_i=1^r P_i\ textsubject to & x_1 + x_2 + dots + x_n = 1\ & x_1, x_2, dots, x_n geq 0endarray$$



      where each $P_i$ is a sum of some $x_k$'s. Is it true that we can always choose all $x_i$'s to be rational so as to maximize this expression?



      (It is not true that the $x_i$'s must always be rational. For example, if $n=2$ and the expression is just $x_1+x_2$, then we can choose $x_1=a$ and $x_2=1-a$ for any $a$. But we can also choose $a$ to be rational.)



      Also, is it true that each $P_i$ will be at least $frac 1r$ at the optimum?







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      $$beginarrayll textmaximize & displaystyleprod_i=1^r P_i\ textsubject to & x_1 + x_2 + dots + x_n = 1\ & x_1, x_2, dots, x_n geq 0endarray$$



      where each $P_i$ is a sum of some $x_k$'s. Is it true that we can always choose all $x_i$'s to be rational so as to maximize this expression?



      (It is not true that the $x_i$'s must always be rational. For example, if $n=2$ and the expression is just $x_1+x_2$, then we can choose $x_1=a$ and $x_2=1-a$ for any $a$. But we can also choose $a$ to be rational.)



      Also, is it true that each $P_i$ will be at least $frac 1r$ at the optimum?









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          It is not true that $P_i geq 1/n$ at the optimum. Take $P_1=x_1$ and $P_i=x_2$ for $i geq 2$. The objective is then $x_1 x_2^r-1 = (1-x_2)x_2^r-1$. This is maximized at $x_2=(r-1)/r$, so $P_1 = 1/r$, which for $r > 2$ is less than 0.5.



          Maximizing the product of $P_i$ is equivalent to maximizing the sum of the logarithm of $P_i$, which is concave:
          $$max_x left sum_k log(P_k(x)) : e^T x = 1, x geq 0 right$$
          Since this problem is convex, the KKT conditions are necessary and sufficient:



          $$sum_k fracP'_k(x)P_k(x)+lambda + mu_i = 0 text (stationarity)$$
          $$lambda(e^Tx-1)=0, ; mu_i x_i = 0 text (complementary slackness)$$
          $$sum_i x_i=1, ; x geq 0 text (primal feasibility)$$
          $$mu geq 0 text (dual feasibility)$$
          where the derivative is taken with respect to $x_i$, so each $P'_k(x)$ is either $0$ or $1$. This essentially the same as identifying a subset $S$ of the variables such that:
          $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda = 0 quad forall i in S$$
          $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda leq 0 quad forall i notin S$$
          $$sum_i in S x_i = 1, ; x geq 0$$
          where I abuse the notation $x_i in P_k$ to indicate that the sum $P_k$ contains $x_i$. I do not see why there is always a rational solution to these equations.






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            It is not true that $P_i geq 1/n$ at the optimum. Take $P_1=x_1$ and $P_i=x_2$ for $i geq 2$. The objective is then $x_1 x_2^r-1 = (1-x_2)x_2^r-1$. This is maximized at $x_2=(r-1)/r$, so $P_1 = 1/r$, which for $r > 2$ is less than 0.5.



            Maximizing the product of $P_i$ is equivalent to maximizing the sum of the logarithm of $P_i$, which is concave:
            $$max_x left sum_k log(P_k(x)) : e^T x = 1, x geq 0 right$$
            Since this problem is convex, the KKT conditions are necessary and sufficient:



            $$sum_k fracP'_k(x)P_k(x)+lambda + mu_i = 0 text (stationarity)$$
            $$lambda(e^Tx-1)=0, ; mu_i x_i = 0 text (complementary slackness)$$
            $$sum_i x_i=1, ; x geq 0 text (primal feasibility)$$
            $$mu geq 0 text (dual feasibility)$$
            where the derivative is taken with respect to $x_i$, so each $P'_k(x)$ is either $0$ or $1$. This essentially the same as identifying a subset $S$ of the variables such that:
            $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda = 0 quad forall i in S$$
            $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda leq 0 quad forall i notin S$$
            $$sum_i in S x_i = 1, ; x geq 0$$
            where I abuse the notation $x_i in P_k$ to indicate that the sum $P_k$ contains $x_i$. I do not see why there is always a rational solution to these equations.






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              It is not true that $P_i geq 1/n$ at the optimum. Take $P_1=x_1$ and $P_i=x_2$ for $i geq 2$. The objective is then $x_1 x_2^r-1 = (1-x_2)x_2^r-1$. This is maximized at $x_2=(r-1)/r$, so $P_1 = 1/r$, which for $r > 2$ is less than 0.5.



              Maximizing the product of $P_i$ is equivalent to maximizing the sum of the logarithm of $P_i$, which is concave:
              $$max_x left sum_k log(P_k(x)) : e^T x = 1, x geq 0 right$$
              Since this problem is convex, the KKT conditions are necessary and sufficient:



              $$sum_k fracP'_k(x)P_k(x)+lambda + mu_i = 0 text (stationarity)$$
              $$lambda(e^Tx-1)=0, ; mu_i x_i = 0 text (complementary slackness)$$
              $$sum_i x_i=1, ; x geq 0 text (primal feasibility)$$
              $$mu geq 0 text (dual feasibility)$$
              where the derivative is taken with respect to $x_i$, so each $P'_k(x)$ is either $0$ or $1$. This essentially the same as identifying a subset $S$ of the variables such that:
              $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda = 0 quad forall i in S$$
              $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda leq 0 quad forall i notin S$$
              $$sum_i in S x_i = 1, ; x geq 0$$
              where I abuse the notation $x_i in P_k$ to indicate that the sum $P_k$ contains $x_i$. I do not see why there is always a rational solution to these equations.






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                It is not true that $P_i geq 1/n$ at the optimum. Take $P_1=x_1$ and $P_i=x_2$ for $i geq 2$. The objective is then $x_1 x_2^r-1 = (1-x_2)x_2^r-1$. This is maximized at $x_2=(r-1)/r$, so $P_1 = 1/r$, which for $r > 2$ is less than 0.5.



                Maximizing the product of $P_i$ is equivalent to maximizing the sum of the logarithm of $P_i$, which is concave:
                $$max_x left sum_k log(P_k(x)) : e^T x = 1, x geq 0 right$$
                Since this problem is convex, the KKT conditions are necessary and sufficient:



                $$sum_k fracP'_k(x)P_k(x)+lambda + mu_i = 0 text (stationarity)$$
                $$lambda(e^Tx-1)=0, ; mu_i x_i = 0 text (complementary slackness)$$
                $$sum_i x_i=1, ; x geq 0 text (primal feasibility)$$
                $$mu geq 0 text (dual feasibility)$$
                where the derivative is taken with respect to $x_i$, so each $P'_k(x)$ is either $0$ or $1$. This essentially the same as identifying a subset $S$ of the variables such that:
                $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda = 0 quad forall i in S$$
                $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda leq 0 quad forall i notin S$$
                $$sum_i in S x_i = 1, ; x geq 0$$
                where I abuse the notation $x_i in P_k$ to indicate that the sum $P_k$ contains $x_i$. I do not see why there is always a rational solution to these equations.






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                It is not true that $P_i geq 1/n$ at the optimum. Take $P_1=x_1$ and $P_i=x_2$ for $i geq 2$. The objective is then $x_1 x_2^r-1 = (1-x_2)x_2^r-1$. This is maximized at $x_2=(r-1)/r$, so $P_1 = 1/r$, which for $r > 2$ is less than 0.5.



                Maximizing the product of $P_i$ is equivalent to maximizing the sum of the logarithm of $P_i$, which is concave:
                $$max_x left sum_k log(P_k(x)) : e^T x = 1, x geq 0 right$$
                Since this problem is convex, the KKT conditions are necessary and sufficient:



                $$sum_k fracP'_k(x)P_k(x)+lambda + mu_i = 0 text (stationarity)$$
                $$lambda(e^Tx-1)=0, ; mu_i x_i = 0 text (complementary slackness)$$
                $$sum_i x_i=1, ; x geq 0 text (primal feasibility)$$
                $$mu geq 0 text (dual feasibility)$$
                where the derivative is taken with respect to $x_i$, so each $P'_k(x)$ is either $0$ or $1$. This essentially the same as identifying a subset $S$ of the variables such that:
                $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda = 0 quad forall i in S$$
                $$sum_k : x_i in P_k frac1P_k(x)+lambda leq 0 quad forall i notin S$$
                $$sum_i in S x_i = 1, ; x geq 0$$
                where I abuse the notation $x_i in P_k$ to indicate that the sum $P_k$ contains $x_i$. I do not see why there is always a rational solution to these equations.







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