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If $m,ninmathbb N, m<n, z=fracmn, qge 2$, the inequality $0<(za-1)a^q-1<1$ has solution $ainmathbb N$.

Then the solution to the inequality above is unique.




The question is simple: how to prove the statement above?



I am currently studying




Daniel D. Bonar & Michael Khoury Jr. Real Infinite Series. Classroom Resource Materials. The Mathematical Association of America, $2006$. isbn: $0883857456$.




The problem above is here: P.1, P.2.



The book did give a proof to the statement at beginning, as a lemma to that problem in the book.



The book said (I use $q$ instead of $e$ in the book) "$fracnb<mle m(b-a)<fracna^q-1$ implies a contradiction", but how? And, how to prove $m(b-a)<fracna^q-1$?



What I have thought:



If $a^q-1inmathbb Z$ again and $q-1>1$, then there may be a contradiction since there are just finite many integer between $a$ and $b$, (similar to proof by infinite descent). But well... I think I thought too much. It just doesn't work.



And I back to the problem itself and try, if $a<b$ are natural numbers satisfying the inequality,
beginalign*
0<(za-1)a^q-1&<(zb-1)b^q-1<1\
0<(ma-n)a^q-1&<(mb-n)b^q-1<n\
0<ma^q-na^q-1&<mb^q-nb^q-1<n\
n(b^q-1-a^q-1)&<m(b^q-a^q)\
z&>fracb^q-1-a^q-1b^q-a^q
endalign*
But it doesn't seem to be constructive.



I would like a proof to the statement at beginning. New proofs are good, in case there are, but I would like, if possible, someone telling me how the arguments in the book flow.







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    If $m,ninmathbb N, m<n, z=fracmn, qge 2$, the inequality $0<(za-1)a^q-1<1$ has solution $ainmathbb N$.

    Then the solution to the inequality above is unique.




    The question is simple: how to prove the statement above?



    I am currently studying




    Daniel D. Bonar & Michael Khoury Jr. Real Infinite Series. Classroom Resource Materials. The Mathematical Association of America, $2006$. isbn: $0883857456$.




    The problem above is here: P.1, P.2.



    The book did give a proof to the statement at beginning, as a lemma to that problem in the book.



    The book said (I use $q$ instead of $e$ in the book) "$fracnb<mle m(b-a)<fracna^q-1$ implies a contradiction", but how? And, how to prove $m(b-a)<fracna^q-1$?



    What I have thought:



    If $a^q-1inmathbb Z$ again and $q-1>1$, then there may be a contradiction since there are just finite many integer between $a$ and $b$, (similar to proof by infinite descent). But well... I think I thought too much. It just doesn't work.



    And I back to the problem itself and try, if $a<b$ are natural numbers satisfying the inequality,
    beginalign*
    0<(za-1)a^q-1&<(zb-1)b^q-1<1\
    0<(ma-n)a^q-1&<(mb-n)b^q-1<n\
    0<ma^q-na^q-1&<mb^q-nb^q-1<n\
    n(b^q-1-a^q-1)&<m(b^q-a^q)\
    z&>fracb^q-1-a^q-1b^q-a^q
    endalign*
    But it doesn't seem to be constructive.



    I would like a proof to the statement at beginning. New proofs are good, in case there are, but I would like, if possible, someone telling me how the arguments in the book flow.







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      If $m,ninmathbb N, m<n, z=fracmn, qge 2$, the inequality $0<(za-1)a^q-1<1$ has solution $ainmathbb N$.

      Then the solution to the inequality above is unique.




      The question is simple: how to prove the statement above?



      I am currently studying




      Daniel D. Bonar & Michael Khoury Jr. Real Infinite Series. Classroom Resource Materials. The Mathematical Association of America, $2006$. isbn: $0883857456$.




      The problem above is here: P.1, P.2.



      The book did give a proof to the statement at beginning, as a lemma to that problem in the book.



      The book said (I use $q$ instead of $e$ in the book) "$fracnb<mle m(b-a)<fracna^q-1$ implies a contradiction", but how? And, how to prove $m(b-a)<fracna^q-1$?



      What I have thought:



      If $a^q-1inmathbb Z$ again and $q-1>1$, then there may be a contradiction since there are just finite many integer between $a$ and $b$, (similar to proof by infinite descent). But well... I think I thought too much. It just doesn't work.



      And I back to the problem itself and try, if $a<b$ are natural numbers satisfying the inequality,
      beginalign*
      0<(za-1)a^q-1&<(zb-1)b^q-1<1\
      0<(ma-n)a^q-1&<(mb-n)b^q-1<n\
      0<ma^q-na^q-1&<mb^q-nb^q-1<n\
      n(b^q-1-a^q-1)&<m(b^q-a^q)\
      z&>fracb^q-1-a^q-1b^q-a^q
      endalign*
      But it doesn't seem to be constructive.



      I would like a proof to the statement at beginning. New proofs are good, in case there are, but I would like, if possible, someone telling me how the arguments in the book flow.







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      If $m,ninmathbb N, m<n, z=fracmn, qge 2$, the inequality $0<(za-1)a^q-1<1$ has solution $ainmathbb N$.

      Then the solution to the inequality above is unique.




      The question is simple: how to prove the statement above?



      I am currently studying




      Daniel D. Bonar & Michael Khoury Jr. Real Infinite Series. Classroom Resource Materials. The Mathematical Association of America, $2006$. isbn: $0883857456$.




      The problem above is here: P.1, P.2.



      The book did give a proof to the statement at beginning, as a lemma to that problem in the book.



      The book said (I use $q$ instead of $e$ in the book) "$fracnb<mle m(b-a)<fracna^q-1$ implies a contradiction", but how? And, how to prove $m(b-a)<fracna^q-1$?



      What I have thought:



      If $a^q-1inmathbb Z$ again and $q-1>1$, then there may be a contradiction since there are just finite many integer between $a$ and $b$, (similar to proof by infinite descent). But well... I think I thought too much. It just doesn't work.



      And I back to the problem itself and try, if $a<b$ are natural numbers satisfying the inequality,
      beginalign*
      0<(za-1)a^q-1&<(zb-1)b^q-1<1\
      0<(ma-n)a^q-1&<(mb-n)b^q-1<n\
      0<ma^q-na^q-1&<mb^q-nb^q-1<n\
      n(b^q-1-a^q-1)&<m(b^q-a^q)\
      z&>fracb^q-1-a^q-1b^q-a^q
      endalign*
      But it doesn't seem to be constructive.



      I would like a proof to the statement at beginning. New proofs are good, in case there are, but I would like, if possible, someone telling me how the arguments in the book flow.









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          If the inequality
          $$0 < (za-1)a^q-1$$
          holds, then, since $a^q-1 > 0$, we must have $za = fracmna > 1$, or equivalently
          $$m > fracna,.$$
          If $a < b$ are two integers, then $b-a geqslant 1$, whence $m leqslant m(b-a)$. If $0 < a < b$ are integer solutions of
          $$0 < (zx-1)x^q-1 < 1,, tag$ast$$$
          then, since the middle expression in $(ast)$ is monotonic in $x$ for $x > z^-1$, we have
          $$0 < (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,.$$
          Since $b^q-1 > a^q-1$ and $zb > za$, it follows that
          $$0 < bigl((zb-1) - (za-1)bigr)a^q-1 = fracmn(b-a)a^q-1 leqslant (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,,$$
          and from that we obtain
          $$m(b-a) < fracna^q-1,.$$
          But from
          $$m < fracna^q-1$$
          it follows that
          $$za = fracmna < frac1a^q-2 leqslant 1,,$$
          which shows that $a$ can't be a solution of $(ast)$ by the remark at the top.






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            If the inequality
            $$0 < (za-1)a^q-1$$
            holds, then, since $a^q-1 > 0$, we must have $za = fracmna > 1$, or equivalently
            $$m > fracna,.$$
            If $a < b$ are two integers, then $b-a geqslant 1$, whence $m leqslant m(b-a)$. If $0 < a < b$ are integer solutions of
            $$0 < (zx-1)x^q-1 < 1,, tag$ast$$$
            then, since the middle expression in $(ast)$ is monotonic in $x$ for $x > z^-1$, we have
            $$0 < (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,.$$
            Since $b^q-1 > a^q-1$ and $zb > za$, it follows that
            $$0 < bigl((zb-1) - (za-1)bigr)a^q-1 = fracmn(b-a)a^q-1 leqslant (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,,$$
            and from that we obtain
            $$m(b-a) < fracna^q-1,.$$
            But from
            $$m < fracna^q-1$$
            it follows that
            $$za = fracmna < frac1a^q-2 leqslant 1,,$$
            which shows that $a$ can't be a solution of $(ast)$ by the remark at the top.






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              If the inequality
              $$0 < (za-1)a^q-1$$
              holds, then, since $a^q-1 > 0$, we must have $za = fracmna > 1$, or equivalently
              $$m > fracna,.$$
              If $a < b$ are two integers, then $b-a geqslant 1$, whence $m leqslant m(b-a)$. If $0 < a < b$ are integer solutions of
              $$0 < (zx-1)x^q-1 < 1,, tag$ast$$$
              then, since the middle expression in $(ast)$ is monotonic in $x$ for $x > z^-1$, we have
              $$0 < (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,.$$
              Since $b^q-1 > a^q-1$ and $zb > za$, it follows that
              $$0 < bigl((zb-1) - (za-1)bigr)a^q-1 = fracmn(b-a)a^q-1 leqslant (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,,$$
              and from that we obtain
              $$m(b-a) < fracna^q-1,.$$
              But from
              $$m < fracna^q-1$$
              it follows that
              $$za = fracmna < frac1a^q-2 leqslant 1,,$$
              which shows that $a$ can't be a solution of $(ast)$ by the remark at the top.






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                If the inequality
                $$0 < (za-1)a^q-1$$
                holds, then, since $a^q-1 > 0$, we must have $za = fracmna > 1$, or equivalently
                $$m > fracna,.$$
                If $a < b$ are two integers, then $b-a geqslant 1$, whence $m leqslant m(b-a)$. If $0 < a < b$ are integer solutions of
                $$0 < (zx-1)x^q-1 < 1,, tag$ast$$$
                then, since the middle expression in $(ast)$ is monotonic in $x$ for $x > z^-1$, we have
                $$0 < (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,.$$
                Since $b^q-1 > a^q-1$ and $zb > za$, it follows that
                $$0 < bigl((zb-1) - (za-1)bigr)a^q-1 = fracmn(b-a)a^q-1 leqslant (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,,$$
                and from that we obtain
                $$m(b-a) < fracna^q-1,.$$
                But from
                $$m < fracna^q-1$$
                it follows that
                $$za = fracmna < frac1a^q-2 leqslant 1,,$$
                which shows that $a$ can't be a solution of $(ast)$ by the remark at the top.






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                If the inequality
                $$0 < (za-1)a^q-1$$
                holds, then, since $a^q-1 > 0$, we must have $za = fracmna > 1$, or equivalently
                $$m > fracna,.$$
                If $a < b$ are two integers, then $b-a geqslant 1$, whence $m leqslant m(b-a)$. If $0 < a < b$ are integer solutions of
                $$0 < (zx-1)x^q-1 < 1,, tag$ast$$$
                then, since the middle expression in $(ast)$ is monotonic in $x$ for $x > z^-1$, we have
                $$0 < (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,.$$
                Since $b^q-1 > a^q-1$ and $zb > za$, it follows that
                $$0 < bigl((zb-1) - (za-1)bigr)a^q-1 = fracmn(b-a)a^q-1 leqslant (zb-1)b^q-1 - (za-1)a^q-1 < 1,,$$
                and from that we obtain
                $$m(b-a) < fracna^q-1,.$$
                But from
                $$m < fracna^q-1$$
                it follows that
                $$za = fracmna < frac1a^q-2 leqslant 1,,$$
                which shows that $a$ can't be a solution of $(ast)$ by the remark at the top.







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