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I recently came across the following problem in olympiad training material:




A circle $k$ is internally tangent to sides $AB, AC$ of $Delta ABC$ and its circumcircle in points $X, Y$ and $Z$, respectively. Let $T$ be the intersection of $XY$ and $AZ$. Prove that $measuredangle XTB=measuredangle CTY$.
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By inverting through the circle with center $A$ that is passing through $T$, I managed to transform the problem into the following, in my opinion easier, version:




The $A$-excircle of $Delta ABC$ touches $AB, AC$ and $BC$ in points $X, Y$ and $Z$, respectively. Let $T$ be the intersection of the circumcircle of $Delta AXY$ with $AZ$. Prove $measuredangle ATB=measuredangle CTA$.
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However, I have not been able to solve the second version of the problem either and only got as far as $measuredangle ATX=measuredangle YTA$ which leaves $measuredangle YTC=measuredangle BTX$ to prove.
Furthermore, the circle through $A, X $ and $Y $ is obviously Thales' circle with diameter $AM $ where $M $ is the center of the excircle.



Does anyone have a suggestion how to proceed or how to solve the initial problem without an inversion?







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I recently came across the following problem in olympiad training material:




A circle $k$ is internally tangent to sides $AB, AC$ of $Delta ABC$ and its circumcircle in points $X, Y$ and $Z$, respectively. Let $T$ be the intersection of $XY$ and $AZ$. Prove that $measuredangle XTB=measuredangle CTY$.
enter image description here




By inverting through the circle with center $A$ that is passing through $T$, I managed to transform the problem into the following, in my opinion easier, version:




The $A$-excircle of $Delta ABC$ touches $AB, AC$ and $BC$ in points $X, Y$ and $Z$, respectively. Let $T$ be the intersection of the circumcircle of $Delta AXY$ with $AZ$. Prove $measuredangle ATB=measuredangle CTA$.
enter image description here




However, I have not been able to solve the second version of the problem either and only got as far as $measuredangle ATX=measuredangle YTA$ which leaves $measuredangle YTC=measuredangle BTX$ to prove.
Furthermore, the circle through $A, X $ and $Y $ is obviously Thales' circle with diameter $AM $ where $M $ is the center of the excircle.



Does anyone have a suggestion how to proceed or how to solve the initial problem without an inversion?







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I recently came across the following problem in olympiad training material:




A circle $k$ is internally tangent to sides $AB, AC$ of $Delta ABC$ and its circumcircle in points $X, Y$ and $Z$, respectively. Let $T$ be the intersection of $XY$ and $AZ$. Prove that $measuredangle XTB=measuredangle CTY$.
enter image description here




By inverting through the circle with center $A$ that is passing through $T$, I managed to transform the problem into the following, in my opinion easier, version:




The $A$-excircle of $Delta ABC$ touches $AB, AC$ and $BC$ in points $X, Y$ and $Z$, respectively. Let $T$ be the intersection of the circumcircle of $Delta AXY$ with $AZ$. Prove $measuredangle ATB=measuredangle CTA$.
enter image description here




However, I have not been able to solve the second version of the problem either and only got as far as $measuredangle ATX=measuredangle YTA$ which leaves $measuredangle YTC=measuredangle BTX$ to prove.
Furthermore, the circle through $A, X $ and $Y $ is obviously Thales' circle with diameter $AM $ where $M $ is the center of the excircle.



Does anyone have a suggestion how to proceed or how to solve the initial problem without an inversion?







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I recently came across the following problem in olympiad training material:




A circle $k$ is internally tangent to sides $AB, AC$ of $Delta ABC$ and its circumcircle in points $X, Y$ and $Z$, respectively. Let $T$ be the intersection of $XY$ and $AZ$. Prove that $measuredangle XTB=measuredangle CTY$.
enter image description here




By inverting through the circle with center $A$ that is passing through $T$, I managed to transform the problem into the following, in my opinion easier, version:




The $A$-excircle of $Delta ABC$ touches $AB, AC$ and $BC$ in points $X, Y$ and $Z$, respectively. Let $T$ be the intersection of the circumcircle of $Delta AXY$ with $AZ$. Prove $measuredangle ATB=measuredangle CTA$.
enter image description here




However, I have not been able to solve the second version of the problem either and only got as far as $measuredangle ATX=measuredangle YTA$ which leaves $measuredangle YTC=measuredangle BTX$ to prove.
Furthermore, the circle through $A, X $ and $Y $ is obviously Thales' circle with diameter $AM $ where $M $ is the center of the excircle.



Does anyone have a suggestion how to proceed or how to solve the initial problem without an inversion?









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I'll split the solution into several small steps.




Let $ZX$ and $ZY$ intersect the circumcircle of $ABC$ again at $P$ and $Q$, respectively.






It is enough to prove that $triangle BXT sim triangle CYT$.






Since $angle BXT = angle TYC$, it is enough to prove that $dfracBXCY = dfracXTYT$.






Note that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle XYZ$. Therefore $dfracXTYT=dfracXZ^2YZ^2$.






Prove that $XY parallel PQ$. Conclude that $dfracXZYZ = dfracPZQZ$.






Note that $XY parallel PQ$ implies that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle ZPQ$ as well. Conclude that $dfracZPZQ = dfracAPAQ$.






Prove that $P$ and $Q$ are the midpoints of arc $AB$ and $AC$, respectively.






Prove that $triangle ZBX sim triangle ZPA$ and $triangle ZCY sim triangle ZQA$. Conclude that $dfracBXXZ = dfracPAAZ$ and $dfracCYYZ=dfracQAAZ$.






Combine all ingredients.







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  • "Note that $ZA $ is a symmedian in $Delta XYZ $." Why is that? At least to me, that is not trivial. Could you add a more detailed explanation of that step?
    – mxian
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  • This is a well-known property of symmedians. You can read a proof e.g. here: cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Geometry/Symmedian.shtml
    – timon92
    Jul 17 at 11:37










  • Thank you very much, that has made it clear. I'd suggest you just edit that writing error you made: It should be $dfrac BXXZ=dfrac APAZ $, otherwise it won't work out.
    – mxian
    Jul 17 at 12:18










  • You're absolutely right. I have corrected it.
    – timon92
    Jul 17 at 12:47

















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Proof




Lemma Let the circle $c_1$ internally contact the circle $c_2$ at $T$, and
contact the chord $AB$ of $c_2$ at $C$. Then $TC$ bisects $angle ATB$.




enter image description here



We are not going to give the proof, because it's very simple, if you notice that $c_1$ and $c_2$ are homothetic with the homothetic center $T$. Now, let's turn to prove the original statement.



enter image description here



By the lemma, we have $ZX$ bisects $angle AZB$ and $ZY$ bisects $angle AZC$. Thus $$fracBXXA=fracZBZA,~~~~~~fracCYYA=fracZCZA.$$
Since $XA=YA$, therefore, $$fracBXCY=fracZBZC=fracsinangle BAZsin angle CAZ=fracdfrac12cdot AXcdot AT cdot sinangle BAZ dfrac12 cdot AYcdot AT cdot sinangle CAZ=fracS_Delta AXTS_Delta AYT=fracXTYT.$$



Notice that $angle BXT=angle CYT$. Hence, $$Delta BXT sim Delta CYT.$$
It follows that $$angle XTB=angle YTC,$$ which is desired.






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    I'll split the solution into several small steps.




    Let $ZX$ and $ZY$ intersect the circumcircle of $ABC$ again at $P$ and $Q$, respectively.






    It is enough to prove that $triangle BXT sim triangle CYT$.






    Since $angle BXT = angle TYC$, it is enough to prove that $dfracBXCY = dfracXTYT$.






    Note that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle XYZ$. Therefore $dfracXTYT=dfracXZ^2YZ^2$.






    Prove that $XY parallel PQ$. Conclude that $dfracXZYZ = dfracPZQZ$.






    Note that $XY parallel PQ$ implies that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle ZPQ$ as well. Conclude that $dfracZPZQ = dfracAPAQ$.






    Prove that $P$ and $Q$ are the midpoints of arc $AB$ and $AC$, respectively.






    Prove that $triangle ZBX sim triangle ZPA$ and $triangle ZCY sim triangle ZQA$. Conclude that $dfracBXXZ = dfracPAAZ$ and $dfracCYYZ=dfracQAAZ$.






    Combine all ingredients.







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    • "Note that $ZA $ is a symmedian in $Delta XYZ $." Why is that? At least to me, that is not trivial. Could you add a more detailed explanation of that step?
      – mxian
      Jul 17 at 11:25










    • This is a well-known property of symmedians. You can read a proof e.g. here: cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Geometry/Symmedian.shtml
      – timon92
      Jul 17 at 11:37










    • Thank you very much, that has made it clear. I'd suggest you just edit that writing error you made: It should be $dfrac BXXZ=dfrac APAZ $, otherwise it won't work out.
      – mxian
      Jul 17 at 12:18










    • You're absolutely right. I have corrected it.
      – timon92
      Jul 17 at 12:47














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    I'll split the solution into several small steps.




    Let $ZX$ and $ZY$ intersect the circumcircle of $ABC$ again at $P$ and $Q$, respectively.






    It is enough to prove that $triangle BXT sim triangle CYT$.






    Since $angle BXT = angle TYC$, it is enough to prove that $dfracBXCY = dfracXTYT$.






    Note that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle XYZ$. Therefore $dfracXTYT=dfracXZ^2YZ^2$.






    Prove that $XY parallel PQ$. Conclude that $dfracXZYZ = dfracPZQZ$.






    Note that $XY parallel PQ$ implies that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle ZPQ$ as well. Conclude that $dfracZPZQ = dfracAPAQ$.






    Prove that $P$ and $Q$ are the midpoints of arc $AB$ and $AC$, respectively.






    Prove that $triangle ZBX sim triangle ZPA$ and $triangle ZCY sim triangle ZQA$. Conclude that $dfracBXXZ = dfracPAAZ$ and $dfracCYYZ=dfracQAAZ$.






    Combine all ingredients.







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    • "Note that $ZA $ is a symmedian in $Delta XYZ $." Why is that? At least to me, that is not trivial. Could you add a more detailed explanation of that step?
      – mxian
      Jul 17 at 11:25










    • This is a well-known property of symmedians. You can read a proof e.g. here: cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Geometry/Symmedian.shtml
      – timon92
      Jul 17 at 11:37










    • Thank you very much, that has made it clear. I'd suggest you just edit that writing error you made: It should be $dfrac BXXZ=dfrac APAZ $, otherwise it won't work out.
      – mxian
      Jul 17 at 12:18










    • You're absolutely right. I have corrected it.
      – timon92
      Jul 17 at 12:47












    up vote
    1
    down vote



    accepted







    up vote
    1
    down vote



    accepted






    I'll split the solution into several small steps.




    Let $ZX$ and $ZY$ intersect the circumcircle of $ABC$ again at $P$ and $Q$, respectively.






    It is enough to prove that $triangle BXT sim triangle CYT$.






    Since $angle BXT = angle TYC$, it is enough to prove that $dfracBXCY = dfracXTYT$.






    Note that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle XYZ$. Therefore $dfracXTYT=dfracXZ^2YZ^2$.






    Prove that $XY parallel PQ$. Conclude that $dfracXZYZ = dfracPZQZ$.






    Note that $XY parallel PQ$ implies that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle ZPQ$ as well. Conclude that $dfracZPZQ = dfracAPAQ$.






    Prove that $P$ and $Q$ are the midpoints of arc $AB$ and $AC$, respectively.






    Prove that $triangle ZBX sim triangle ZPA$ and $triangle ZCY sim triangle ZQA$. Conclude that $dfracBXXZ = dfracPAAZ$ and $dfracCYYZ=dfracQAAZ$.






    Combine all ingredients.







    share|cite|improve this answer















    I'll split the solution into several small steps.




    Let $ZX$ and $ZY$ intersect the circumcircle of $ABC$ again at $P$ and $Q$, respectively.






    It is enough to prove that $triangle BXT sim triangle CYT$.






    Since $angle BXT = angle TYC$, it is enough to prove that $dfracBXCY = dfracXTYT$.






    Note that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle XYZ$. Therefore $dfracXTYT=dfracXZ^2YZ^2$.






    Prove that $XY parallel PQ$. Conclude that $dfracXZYZ = dfracPZQZ$.






    Note that $XY parallel PQ$ implies that $ZA$ is a symmedian in $triangle ZPQ$ as well. Conclude that $dfracZPZQ = dfracAPAQ$.






    Prove that $P$ and $Q$ are the midpoints of arc $AB$ and $AC$, respectively.






    Prove that $triangle ZBX sim triangle ZPA$ and $triangle ZCY sim triangle ZQA$. Conclude that $dfracBXXZ = dfracPAAZ$ and $dfracCYYZ=dfracQAAZ$.






    Combine all ingredients.








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    • "Note that $ZA $ is a symmedian in $Delta XYZ $." Why is that? At least to me, that is not trivial. Could you add a more detailed explanation of that step?
      – mxian
      Jul 17 at 11:25










    • This is a well-known property of symmedians. You can read a proof e.g. here: cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Geometry/Symmedian.shtml
      – timon92
      Jul 17 at 11:37










    • Thank you very much, that has made it clear. I'd suggest you just edit that writing error you made: It should be $dfrac BXXZ=dfrac APAZ $, otherwise it won't work out.
      – mxian
      Jul 17 at 12:18










    • You're absolutely right. I have corrected it.
      – timon92
      Jul 17 at 12:47
















    • "Note that $ZA $ is a symmedian in $Delta XYZ $." Why is that? At least to me, that is not trivial. Could you add a more detailed explanation of that step?
      – mxian
      Jul 17 at 11:25










    • This is a well-known property of symmedians. You can read a proof e.g. here: cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Geometry/Symmedian.shtml
      – timon92
      Jul 17 at 11:37










    • Thank you very much, that has made it clear. I'd suggest you just edit that writing error you made: It should be $dfrac BXXZ=dfrac APAZ $, otherwise it won't work out.
      – mxian
      Jul 17 at 12:18










    • You're absolutely right. I have corrected it.
      – timon92
      Jul 17 at 12:47















    "Note that $ZA $ is a symmedian in $Delta XYZ $." Why is that? At least to me, that is not trivial. Could you add a more detailed explanation of that step?
    – mxian
    Jul 17 at 11:25




    "Note that $ZA $ is a symmedian in $Delta XYZ $." Why is that? At least to me, that is not trivial. Could you add a more detailed explanation of that step?
    – mxian
    Jul 17 at 11:25












    This is a well-known property of symmedians. You can read a proof e.g. here: cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Geometry/Symmedian.shtml
    – timon92
    Jul 17 at 11:37




    This is a well-known property of symmedians. You can read a proof e.g. here: cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Geometry/Symmedian.shtml
    – timon92
    Jul 17 at 11:37












    Thank you very much, that has made it clear. I'd suggest you just edit that writing error you made: It should be $dfrac BXXZ=dfrac APAZ $, otherwise it won't work out.
    – mxian
    Jul 17 at 12:18




    Thank you very much, that has made it clear. I'd suggest you just edit that writing error you made: It should be $dfrac BXXZ=dfrac APAZ $, otherwise it won't work out.
    – mxian
    Jul 17 at 12:18












    You're absolutely right. I have corrected it.
    – timon92
    Jul 17 at 12:47




    You're absolutely right. I have corrected it.
    – timon92
    Jul 17 at 12:47










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    Proof




    Lemma Let the circle $c_1$ internally contact the circle $c_2$ at $T$, and
    contact the chord $AB$ of $c_2$ at $C$. Then $TC$ bisects $angle ATB$.




    enter image description here



    We are not going to give the proof, because it's very simple, if you notice that $c_1$ and $c_2$ are homothetic with the homothetic center $T$. Now, let's turn to prove the original statement.



    enter image description here



    By the lemma, we have $ZX$ bisects $angle AZB$ and $ZY$ bisects $angle AZC$. Thus $$fracBXXA=fracZBZA,~~~~~~fracCYYA=fracZCZA.$$
    Since $XA=YA$, therefore, $$fracBXCY=fracZBZC=fracsinangle BAZsin angle CAZ=fracdfrac12cdot AXcdot AT cdot sinangle BAZ dfrac12 cdot AYcdot AT cdot sinangle CAZ=fracS_Delta AXTS_Delta AYT=fracXTYT.$$



    Notice that $angle BXT=angle CYT$. Hence, $$Delta BXT sim Delta CYT.$$
    It follows that $$angle XTB=angle YTC,$$ which is desired.






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      Proof




      Lemma Let the circle $c_1$ internally contact the circle $c_2$ at $T$, and
      contact the chord $AB$ of $c_2$ at $C$. Then $TC$ bisects $angle ATB$.




      enter image description here



      We are not going to give the proof, because it's very simple, if you notice that $c_1$ and $c_2$ are homothetic with the homothetic center $T$. Now, let's turn to prove the original statement.



      enter image description here



      By the lemma, we have $ZX$ bisects $angle AZB$ and $ZY$ bisects $angle AZC$. Thus $$fracBXXA=fracZBZA,~~~~~~fracCYYA=fracZCZA.$$
      Since $XA=YA$, therefore, $$fracBXCY=fracZBZC=fracsinangle BAZsin angle CAZ=fracdfrac12cdot AXcdot AT cdot sinangle BAZ dfrac12 cdot AYcdot AT cdot sinangle CAZ=fracS_Delta AXTS_Delta AYT=fracXTYT.$$



      Notice that $angle BXT=angle CYT$. Hence, $$Delta BXT sim Delta CYT.$$
      It follows that $$angle XTB=angle YTC,$$ which is desired.






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        Proof




        Lemma Let the circle $c_1$ internally contact the circle $c_2$ at $T$, and
        contact the chord $AB$ of $c_2$ at $C$. Then $TC$ bisects $angle ATB$.




        enter image description here



        We are not going to give the proof, because it's very simple, if you notice that $c_1$ and $c_2$ are homothetic with the homothetic center $T$. Now, let's turn to prove the original statement.



        enter image description here



        By the lemma, we have $ZX$ bisects $angle AZB$ and $ZY$ bisects $angle AZC$. Thus $$fracBXXA=fracZBZA,~~~~~~fracCYYA=fracZCZA.$$
        Since $XA=YA$, therefore, $$fracBXCY=fracZBZC=fracsinangle BAZsin angle CAZ=fracdfrac12cdot AXcdot AT cdot sinangle BAZ dfrac12 cdot AYcdot AT cdot sinangle CAZ=fracS_Delta AXTS_Delta AYT=fracXTYT.$$



        Notice that $angle BXT=angle CYT$. Hence, $$Delta BXT sim Delta CYT.$$
        It follows that $$angle XTB=angle YTC,$$ which is desired.






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        Proof




        Lemma Let the circle $c_1$ internally contact the circle $c_2$ at $T$, and
        contact the chord $AB$ of $c_2$ at $C$. Then $TC$ bisects $angle ATB$.




        enter image description here



        We are not going to give the proof, because it's very simple, if you notice that $c_1$ and $c_2$ are homothetic with the homothetic center $T$. Now, let's turn to prove the original statement.



        enter image description here



        By the lemma, we have $ZX$ bisects $angle AZB$ and $ZY$ bisects $angle AZC$. Thus $$fracBXXA=fracZBZA,~~~~~~fracCYYA=fracZCZA.$$
        Since $XA=YA$, therefore, $$fracBXCY=fracZBZC=fracsinangle BAZsin angle CAZ=fracdfrac12cdot AXcdot AT cdot sinangle BAZ dfrac12 cdot AYcdot AT cdot sinangle CAZ=fracS_Delta AXTS_Delta AYT=fracXTYT.$$



        Notice that $angle BXT=angle CYT$. Hence, $$Delta BXT sim Delta CYT.$$
        It follows that $$angle XTB=angle YTC,$$ which is desired.







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