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I start reading about matrix manifolds and in an introduction section it is mentioned the statement below. Is it possible to provide an intuition in terms of basic (e.g. fundamental sub-spaces) linear algebra terms?




An $n times n$ matrix $A$ naturally induces a mapping on $Grass(p,n)$ defined by $$mathcalSin Grass(p,n) mapsto AmathcalS:=Ay : y in mathcalS $$ where $Grass(p,n)$ admits a structure of manifold called the Grassmann manifold.




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    I start reading about matrix manifolds and in an introduction section it is mentioned the statement below. Is it possible to provide an intuition in terms of basic (e.g. fundamental sub-spaces) linear algebra terms?




    An $n times n$ matrix $A$ naturally induces a mapping on $Grass(p,n)$ defined by $$mathcalSin Grass(p,n) mapsto AmathcalS:=Ay : y in mathcalS $$ where $Grass(p,n)$ admits a structure of manifold called the Grassmann manifold.




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      I start reading about matrix manifolds and in an introduction section it is mentioned the statement below. Is it possible to provide an intuition in terms of basic (e.g. fundamental sub-spaces) linear algebra terms?




      An $n times n$ matrix $A$ naturally induces a mapping on $Grass(p,n)$ defined by $$mathcalSin Grass(p,n) mapsto AmathcalS:=Ay : y in mathcalS $$ where $Grass(p,n)$ admits a structure of manifold called the Grassmann manifold.




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      I start reading about matrix manifolds and in an introduction section it is mentioned the statement below. Is it possible to provide an intuition in terms of basic (e.g. fundamental sub-spaces) linear algebra terms?




      An $n times n$ matrix $A$ naturally induces a mapping on $Grass(p,n)$ defined by $$mathcalSin Grass(p,n) mapsto AmathcalS:=Ay : y in mathcalS $$ where $Grass(p,n)$ admits a structure of manifold called the Grassmann manifold.




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          The statement is actually incorrect. Unless $det Ane0$, the image of $S$ under $A$ may have smaller dimension, and therefore "fall out" of the Grassmannian manifold being considered. If $A$ is invertible, then it induces a linear isomorphism of the ambient space and the image of $S$ will have the same dimension as $S$.






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          • Because I am not familiar with topology terminology could you please provide a little more explanations, if it is possible of course, to understand the two last statements? More specifically, statements in the first statement like "smaller dimension", "fall out", and in the second statement, like "linear isomorphism of the ambient space" and "ave the same dimension as S" can be explained with examples?
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          • @darkmoor These are statements of linear algebra, not topology. The only thing not standard is "fall out", meaning that the dimension of the vector space $AS$ may be strictly smaller than the dimension of $S$, and so certainly is not an element of the Grassmannian of p-dimensional subspaces if $S$ was. As an example, consider the 0 matrix.
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          The statement is actually incorrect. Unless $det Ane0$, the image of $S$ under $A$ may have smaller dimension, and therefore "fall out" of the Grassmannian manifold being considered. If $A$ is invertible, then it induces a linear isomorphism of the ambient space and the image of $S$ will have the same dimension as $S$.






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          • Because I am not familiar with topology terminology could you please provide a little more explanations, if it is possible of course, to understand the two last statements? More specifically, statements in the first statement like "smaller dimension", "fall out", and in the second statement, like "linear isomorphism of the ambient space" and "ave the same dimension as S" can be explained with examples?
            – darkmoor
            Jul 30 at 12:13










          • @darkmoor These are statements of linear algebra, not topology. The only thing not standard is "fall out", meaning that the dimension of the vector space $AS$ may be strictly smaller than the dimension of $S$, and so certainly is not an element of the Grassmannian of p-dimensional subspaces if $S$ was. As an example, consider the 0 matrix.
            – Mike Miller
            Jul 30 at 15:57














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          The statement is actually incorrect. Unless $det Ane0$, the image of $S$ under $A$ may have smaller dimension, and therefore "fall out" of the Grassmannian manifold being considered. If $A$ is invertible, then it induces a linear isomorphism of the ambient space and the image of $S$ will have the same dimension as $S$.






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          • Because I am not familiar with topology terminology could you please provide a little more explanations, if it is possible of course, to understand the two last statements? More specifically, statements in the first statement like "smaller dimension", "fall out", and in the second statement, like "linear isomorphism of the ambient space" and "ave the same dimension as S" can be explained with examples?
            – darkmoor
            Jul 30 at 12:13










          • @darkmoor These are statements of linear algebra, not topology. The only thing not standard is "fall out", meaning that the dimension of the vector space $AS$ may be strictly smaller than the dimension of $S$, and so certainly is not an element of the Grassmannian of p-dimensional subspaces if $S$ was. As an example, consider the 0 matrix.
            – Mike Miller
            Jul 30 at 15:57












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          The statement is actually incorrect. Unless $det Ane0$, the image of $S$ under $A$ may have smaller dimension, and therefore "fall out" of the Grassmannian manifold being considered. If $A$ is invertible, then it induces a linear isomorphism of the ambient space and the image of $S$ will have the same dimension as $S$.






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          The statement is actually incorrect. Unless $det Ane0$, the image of $S$ under $A$ may have smaller dimension, and therefore "fall out" of the Grassmannian manifold being considered. If $A$ is invertible, then it induces a linear isomorphism of the ambient space and the image of $S$ will have the same dimension as $S$.







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          • Because I am not familiar with topology terminology could you please provide a little more explanations, if it is possible of course, to understand the two last statements? More specifically, statements in the first statement like "smaller dimension", "fall out", and in the second statement, like "linear isomorphism of the ambient space" and "ave the same dimension as S" can be explained with examples?
            – darkmoor
            Jul 30 at 12:13










          • @darkmoor These are statements of linear algebra, not topology. The only thing not standard is "fall out", meaning that the dimension of the vector space $AS$ may be strictly smaller than the dimension of $S$, and so certainly is not an element of the Grassmannian of p-dimensional subspaces if $S$ was. As an example, consider the 0 matrix.
            – Mike Miller
            Jul 30 at 15:57
















          • Because I am not familiar with topology terminology could you please provide a little more explanations, if it is possible of course, to understand the two last statements? More specifically, statements in the first statement like "smaller dimension", "fall out", and in the second statement, like "linear isomorphism of the ambient space" and "ave the same dimension as S" can be explained with examples?
            – darkmoor
            Jul 30 at 12:13










          • @darkmoor These are statements of linear algebra, not topology. The only thing not standard is "fall out", meaning that the dimension of the vector space $AS$ may be strictly smaller than the dimension of $S$, and so certainly is not an element of the Grassmannian of p-dimensional subspaces if $S$ was. As an example, consider the 0 matrix.
            – Mike Miller
            Jul 30 at 15:57















          Because I am not familiar with topology terminology could you please provide a little more explanations, if it is possible of course, to understand the two last statements? More specifically, statements in the first statement like "smaller dimension", "fall out", and in the second statement, like "linear isomorphism of the ambient space" and "ave the same dimension as S" can be explained with examples?
          – darkmoor
          Jul 30 at 12:13




          Because I am not familiar with topology terminology could you please provide a little more explanations, if it is possible of course, to understand the two last statements? More specifically, statements in the first statement like "smaller dimension", "fall out", and in the second statement, like "linear isomorphism of the ambient space" and "ave the same dimension as S" can be explained with examples?
          – darkmoor
          Jul 30 at 12:13












          @darkmoor These are statements of linear algebra, not topology. The only thing not standard is "fall out", meaning that the dimension of the vector space $AS$ may be strictly smaller than the dimension of $S$, and so certainly is not an element of the Grassmannian of p-dimensional subspaces if $S$ was. As an example, consider the 0 matrix.
          – Mike Miller
          Jul 30 at 15:57




          @darkmoor These are statements of linear algebra, not topology. The only thing not standard is "fall out", meaning that the dimension of the vector space $AS$ may be strictly smaller than the dimension of $S$, and so certainly is not an element of the Grassmannian of p-dimensional subspaces if $S$ was. As an example, consider the 0 matrix.
          – Mike Miller
          Jul 30 at 15:57












           

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